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Title: 290 X-Ride
Post by: rosco on June 11, 2013, 07:58:04 AM
Sold one of these the other day.  Finally got to ride one.  Wow what a fun little bike.  Starts & runs great right out of the creight.  You have to give a pretty good positive pull on the shifter from 1st to 2nd, but other than that the shifting seems pretty smooth.  The customer just informed me that he is averaging somewhere between 35-40 mpg.  But he says that he is pretty easy on the throttle. 
 The only problem so far is the battery display on the meter assembly keeps flashing.  The customer tried a new battery but that didn't seem to help.  He says that all the other display's seem to be working fine other than the battery ind.  If someone has some advice on this it would be greatly appreciated.
 Well I have another one of these on order.  I think once a few of these get out there and people start realizing how fun and easy to ride these bikes are, they will be an easy sale.
 I guess my only complaint is that they do not have a forest approved sparky on them.  So if anyone has any info on that I would appreciate it as well.  Thanks!  Ross
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Bob Billyard on June 13, 2013, 06:08:12 AM
here"'s a video of the Scorpa T ride which is the same bike - enjoy

Scorpa T-Ride (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyl7KyaBG6c#ws)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: john01 on June 15, 2013, 07:30:04 AM
Wow that guy can RIDE!  So the T-Ride and the Sherco X-Ride are the same bikes?  If so which company makes them?  Thanks.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: mootak on June 21, 2013, 02:34:51 PM
My X Ride customer Dutch is loving his bike. He has told me that he has been looking for this bike for the last 30 years. It is keeping him riding at 70 + years old. He took first place in the Legends class at our Desert 100 race.  (see trophy pic below)  Said he had fuel to spare after a 50 mile lap.
 Dutch likes to make "improvements" to his bike to survive his wet muddy riding area here in Wa. State.
He has sent me several e-mails and asked me to forward them to the Sherco community.

Here is e-mail #1




June 10, 2013

Jeff,

This Sherco X-Ride could be the best entry level dirt bike ever made if a few simple mods are made at the factory.  I am more comfortable on this bike than I ever have been in my over 50 years of off road riding.
A new rider could learn on this bike and take the same bike up to serious competition in enduros.  But the problems with the way it is stock will be barriers to sales.

It comes stock with an open hole in the bottom of the air box which allows dirt to be sucked directly into the carb.  I cured that problem with and small piece of gorilla tape.

The rear tire throws dirt, mud and pebbles past the expansion chamber into the air filter. I cured that problem with a small aluminum plate taped to the frame in front of the expansion chamber and more tape closing the gaps between the rear fender ant the frame.

The rear tire also throws mud into the expansion chamber which comes with no spark arrestor.  I cured that with a US Forest Service approved spark arrester made for Volkswagens. 

The front tire throws mud directly onto the radiator.  I cured that problem with a curved piece of plastic mounted below the radiator shroud and another piece of plastic closing the vent holes in the front fender.

Both tires load the rider with dirt and mud from helmet to knees both front and rear.  I have reduced the problem with a plastic piece added to the top of the rear fender but have not yet dealt with the front fender.
It needs something to deflect the dirt spin off from the front tire to stop it from being thrown back into your face and chest when you are moving.

In spite of these irritations I absolutely love this bike.  I want to buy two more for use in my American Legion Dirt Bike Troop Support operation.  Unfortunately these problems with the current set up will be a hindrance to fund raising for this purpose.

I have attached photos of the mods I have made which have enabled me to finish three local enduros as well as win my class in the Desert 100 race this year on this bike.

Dutch


Here is e-mail #2


 
6-12-13

Jeff,

Attached are more pictures of the mods I had to make to the Sherco X Ride to deal with the problems caused by the present  factory set up.  If Sherco would make some type of "mud kit" that could be set in place and held down by the seat and tank, easily attached to the front and rear fenders and below the radiator shroud I believe they would overcome customer resistance to buying the bike in its present from.

The picture showing the simple aluminum baffle plate I made to go between the expansion chamber and the air box also shows a plastic air intake baffle I experimented with but ended up not needing.

I am also using a simple plastic baffle that sits in front of the air box and held in place by the gas tank to stop splash from getting to the top of the air intake.  I don't have a picture of it but will take one if you want it. It is just a piece cut from a gallon water jug.

The riding vest shows how the present set up loads the rider with mud and the filter shows how mud was reaching it before I made the mods. This will create buyer resistance if not corrected.

The picture showing the mud build up around the radiator does not show how clean the radiator itself is because of the baffles I made to protect it. Very little mud gets to the radiator.

 I think the other pictures are self explanatory.  Any questions?

I can only repeat how happy I am with this bike in spite of the problems with the present factory set up.  Rolling the throttle on is like having an electric motor in the frame.  It is all torque put to the ground no matter what gear you are in.  When you snap the throttle open you get instant power. The light weight and quick steering make this the best woods bike I have ever owned.

Please give this feed back to Sherco.

Dutch

Trophy time!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/mootak/xrideD100trophy.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mootak/media/xrideD100trophy.jpg.html)

Rear fender mud splash eliminator

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/mootak/TSBXmodsamptroops004smaller.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mootak/media/TSBXmodsamptroops004smaller.jpg.html)

Radiator splash guard

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/mootak/TSBxridemod2003.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mootak/media/TSBxridemod2003.jpg.html)

 Splash guard


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/mootak/TSBxridemod2001.jpg)[

Splash guard installed

[URL=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mootak/media/TSBXmodsamptroops033.jpg.html](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/mootak/TSBXmodsamptroops033.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mootak/media/TSBxridemod2001.jpg.html)


Air filter before he installed his airbox splash guard

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/mootak/TSBXmodsamptroops023.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mootak/media/TSBXmodsamptroops023.jpg.html)

Later,
Jeff Tasky
Taskys Metric Cycle

Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: john01 on June 23, 2013, 06:29:17 AM
Great feedback.  Thanks for sharing.  Next time you talk to Dutch tell him congrats on his win and thanks for sharing; I like to mod my toys too.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: MOTO VITA on June 26, 2013, 03:40:24 PM
 I just joined this forum. I have a T Ride (Yamaha engine) and am interested in the X Ride as it appears to be the same chassis. Does anyone know the differences other than the power plant?
 My bike came with absurdly stiff fork springs, like street bike springs. I need to figure out some replacements but don't know what rate I have. Has anyone here felt the need to change fork springs? Are X Ride riders happy with their stock suspension?
 I'm in WA, USA and I've sent a message to Dutch (above) via Tasky's Cycle (who directed me here) looking for input.
  I'll subscribe here and see what I can learn.
 Thanks
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: rosco on July 16, 2013, 11:12:37 AM
The suspension on the X-ride seems to be real plush.  More of a trials bike feel to it.  Does your T-ride have the yamaha WR250F motor in it?  I haven't rode one of those yet but a customer of mine bought a Scorpa 250F Long ride from me back in 07.  The suspension felt good on it but again it was a trials bike.  I would guess that it would just be a matter of getting the correct weight of springs in it.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: MOTO VITA on July 18, 2013, 08:36:43 AM
 Yes it's a WR250F.
 I expect you are correct about just getting the right spring rate. Problem is I don't know what the existing spring rate is or what the right spring rate would be. I hope to see an X-ride. If the springs feel noticeably softer than mine I could order the X-Ride springs.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: MotoC on July 19, 2013, 08:52:31 AM
I meant to say something about this a long time ago, but somehow forgot.......I noticed that the X-Rides are coming thru a little lean on the jetting - especially if you are in the northeastern USA.  On the trials side of Sherco we usually run a one size larger pilot jet on those Dellorto's than what the X-Rides are coming thru with.  If you leave it stock on the X-Ride, it makes the idle hunt (lean) even with the FUEL screw all the way out (5 turns max).  I recommend jumping up one size on the pilot if you have one of these bikes or see that problem.  It will be much easier to ride and putt around on (trials style), plus it will start up a little better when cold and come off choke sooner too.  Here in the US - Clay might have some jets, or if not - then try the US importer for Dellorto -  http://www.herdan.com (http://www.herdan.com)  in PA.  I have a few various jets too if you are in a jam.....

Someone somewhere mentioned about oil/gas mixtures and drooling oil out the exhaust.  I think the manual for the X-Ride says 50:1 or maybe 2% (same thing I think) - but like someone else mentioned - you are better off running 70:1 or so unless you really ride hard and fast all day.  We run 80:1 on the same motor in the Sherco trials bike with never any problems.  The other thing I usually do with those bikes is go for an Iridium version of the NGK plug - that makes them start easier too, plus less chance of ever fouling (usually not a problem).  For the trials application its a NGK BPR5EIX - but I need to check and see if that is the same cross-over for the X-Ride stock plug....
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Dan on July 23, 2013, 07:18:53 AM
Just returned from early morning ride in the hills along the Yellowstone River. The suggestion to use an Iridium plug was super. Starting improved a bunch. I still had 50:1 mix in the tank but will change to 70:1 and expect to find additional improvement. This bike has extended my years of riding (age 74 and 5'7") by lower seat ht and other super ergonomics as well as engine characteristics. I miss my 520 KTM's electric start but that's all I miss. The NGK stock number for BPR5EIX is 6597 and I bought mine from NAPA for about $6.50.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: benhanson on July 23, 2013, 08:07:58 PM
We picked up an x ride the other day for use as a goat trail motorcycle for my girlfriend. I have been going through it and wish I had paid more attention to the observations that Dutch made. There is indeed a hole on the engine side of the air filter. We took the bike for a short spin the day we picked it up and I sure wish we hadn't. I pulled the air filter today and found a lot of dust that had been sucked through the hole. Dust had also been sucked through the carb and into the engine. Not very good.  I plugged the hole with an automotive grommet that I had. Be warned that plugging that hole should be done first before the bike is ridden.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: kkim on August 24, 2013, 10:36:26 AM
Owner's manual...

http://www.sherco.com/tl_files/core/pdf/manuels/FR-EN-ES_SHERCO_XRIDE_125-290.pdf (http://www.sherco.com/tl_files/core/pdf/manuels/FR-EN-ES_SHERCO_XRIDE_125-290.pdf)


Spare parts list...

http://www.sherco.com/tl_files/core/pdf/manuels/web_RECANVIS%20XRIDE%202T%202012.pdf (http://www.sherco.com/tl_files/core/pdf/manuels/web_RECANVIS%20XRIDE%202T%202012.pdf)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on February 18, 2014, 03:43:15 PM
Hi Guys,

I am new to the site... Just bought a 2014 X-Ride today I traded in my 2006 GG EC200, 1987 TLR 200, and 2004 CRF50. I was able to get it street plated here in Nova Scotia but given the amount of ice and salt on the roads it will be a bit before I get it out for a ride. Still have my GG 200 trials bike for "real" trials riding but looking forward to some fun trail riding with my son :).

I have asked the dealer to change the main jet, plug the air filter hole, and change the spark plug. I also got him to take it apart and make sure everything was well lubricated - can never be to careful. It is my 10th bike but my first brand new bike - great way to celebrate my Birthday :D 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: john01 on February 18, 2014, 07:29:10 PM
Congrats and welcome to the site.  Look forward to your ride report.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: P A Rider on February 20, 2014, 05:52:19 PM
Mike I bought an X ride last year from Moto Connection and it is a blast ! Could end up being one of my most used bikes I own , because everyone that rides it loves it , me most of all . I wish you lots of smiles ! :)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on February 20, 2014, 06:52:25 PM
Hopefully we will get a bit of a thaw so I can get it out :).

I raced my EC200 in a hare scramble 2 years ago and realized I am no racer... but I am pretty good at crashing and getting up and just keep going. I think the X-Ride will be more fun for that sort of thing. I also organize all the local trials events so it should be good as a work bike and I can even nip people around on the back between sections if need be. I think the thing I am most looking forward to is riding it to work and being able to do some trials practice in the parking lot at lunch time :). Of course trail riding with my son is always a blast I'm guessing we will be trading bikes back and forth a fair bit as he is 15 so his CRF100 is getting a little small for him (but it is still a really fun little bike).

Any hints or tips on the bike would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
Michael
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: P A Rider on February 22, 2014, 02:39:14 AM
It is going to be spring here real soon and I will finally get a chance to really ride my bikes also !
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on February 22, 2014, 01:52:58 PM
That is what the ground hog said here as well - but I'm not seeing it -  ;D
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: P A Rider on February 22, 2014, 06:48:15 PM
Got the X Ride on the work stand today to do the needed mods . I will let you know if I find anything  you should look for on your new bike .  ;)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on February 27, 2014, 06:44:00 PM

Well finally got off work early enough to get to RPM today... to much salt to drive it home so tossed it on the trailer.
 
 (http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm63/MT_album/trailerhome2_zpse4320b21.jpg)
(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm63/MT_album/trailerhome_zps6e55f9c6.jpg)

I unloaded it and figured I would give it a gentle warm up... after many kicks I lent it over till a bit of gas leaked from the carburetor... lots more kicks - head scratching... Call Barry to see if there are any tricks to it - nope but he had only put a little bit of gas in it - off to the gas station and supper... fuel up the bike - started first kick - Doh!

Really light bike at only 92kg you really notice it when moving it around. I only putted around a bit I was super happy with how comfortable it was and the 290 seemed really smooth. Looking forward to getting it out for a trail ride.

(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm63/MT_album/firstx-ride_zps198bcdf5.jpg)

I had the dealer look at the hole, in the air box as per Dutch's comments but the 2014 apparently has a "squeegee thing" that should keep the dirt out and let the water drain. The jetting seemed ok but will check it after a bit of riding. Will be taking it to our indoor trials event next weekend 3 days of competition but will just be farting around showing off the X-Ride
for the crowds and actually competing with my GG trials bike [:D]     
 

   

Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on March 08, 2014, 02:04:37 PM
Having great fun at the indoor event this weekend...

(http://dualsport.smugmug.com/2014-Ride-Reports/2014-03-08-NS-Trials/i-CgTNdgr/1/X2/KEL_3170-X2.jpg)

(http://dualsport.smugmug.com/2014-Ride-Reports/2014-03-08-NS-Trials/i-nGcsKfm/1/X2/KEL_3174-X2.jpg)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on April 13, 2014, 06:13:18 PM
Got back from Bermuda and couldn't wait any longer. I figured the rain had taken care of most of the salt... time to get out for a ride. I rode out Waverly road without going over 1/4 throttle or so. never had a 5 speed before so it will take a get a bit of getting used to not having the extra gear at the top but it really chugged along nicely at the speed limit.

Once I got off road I found the bike was much more manageable than the EC was and having a seat was a nice bonus compared to the TXT. I really enjoyed the weight and the size of the bike. I played a bit in the pit and then took a rip up the pipeline.

(http://dualsport.ca/Forum/uploads/653/pipeline2_04_13_2014.jpg)

 
after that I played around in the training spot and quickly realized that I was way over dressed for trials practice
(http://dualsport.ca/Forum/uploads/653/practice_area2_04_13_2014.jpg)

Wishful thinking I can't even hop it on the TXT yet but figured it was worth a picture...
(http://dualsport.ca/Forum/uploads/653/practice_area1_04_13_2014.jpg)

Unfortunately  things didn't go well on the way home I was just cruising along and all of a sudden the bike decided to stop running. I had to get a picked up and trailer the bike home. I really appreciated the KLR driver who stopped to see if I was alright and offer assistance.
 
Hopefully it is something simple to fix as all in all (up to the point it stopped) it was an awesome ride.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on April 19, 2014, 04:35:17 AM
Took the X-ride for a longer ride today with no issues. The local dealer (RPM) said there was a kink in one of the engine vent lines but it shouldn't have had any effect on the bike seemingly "running out of gas" fuel was flowing both "on" and "reserve". It is possible that it was a little bit of dirt in the carb but nothing was found on inspection of the carb and all is good now.   :) :) :)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: P A Rider on April 23, 2014, 04:49:56 PM
So I added a set of Tubeless Inserts today and a good nobby on the front now I need to go ride her ! :P
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: rosco on April 25, 2014, 10:54:42 PM
I still have a 2013 here on the floor.  Someone needs to buy this thing before I decide to keep it for myself.  I want to take it up in the hills here and see what I can climb with it.  I can just tell this thing would be a goat up in the hills. 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Boom Boom on June 17, 2014, 05:40:00 AM
I added a X-ride to my toy collection this past weekend.
As said by many above I can see it becoming a "go to" bike for those billy goat trail rides and perfect for getting noobs started out on a dirt bike.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: david.bergen on July 09, 2014, 01:23:05 AM
So I added a set of Tubeless Inserts today and a good nobby on the front now I need to go ride her ! :P

Can you compare the riding with a smaller endurobike ( 125 cc)
What do you like the most on the bike?
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Boom Boom on July 10, 2014, 04:28:08 AM
So I added a set of Tubeless Inserts today and a good nobby on the front now I need to go ride her ! :P

Can you compare the riding with a smaller endurobike ( 125 cc)
What do you like the most on the bike?

A 125 enduro is still a full sized bike that you need to ride aggressive to keep in the power band.
The X-ride is more like a trials bike with a comfortable seat that has a little more rake to the front so not as twitchy at speed like a trials bike but not as good as a enduro at speed.
The standing riding position is very comfortable and neutral, pegs are not back in a aggressive position like the trials bike.
The seating height is low enough that riding aggressive sitting is not good and sitting to standing position will give your legs a work out. I ride mine standing the majority of the time and sitting is only for resting or if needing to dog paddle thru nasty conditions. The tranny spacing is trials gearing and 5 speed same as the trials bike, they just stepped up the overall ratio with smaller rear sprocket.
This is not a push it hard like a enduro bike but for trail riding in general it is perfect.
Being a trials engine you have no power valve so the engine has no hit, just a bunch of grunt and RPM winds up slow and even. Most would find it boring but if riding conditions are on the more challenging side and some foot work is needed it sure is nice not picking your bike up from a dirt nap just because you cant get your footing.
Having the center mounted radiator and fan like the trials bike (only larger) no issues with taking a radiator out if you do take a side hit and you can idle or crawl along all day and never have a heating issue because you have the fan. Love mine for doing work like marking loop for an event or just start and stop riding trimming back face slappers. Stalling is not an issue...it is a trials engine and will grunt down and start with just letting the clutch out and minimal throttle.
For as light as the suspension is I find it works just fine to hoss my 250lb fat ass around.
The tires on the bike are crap...throw a quality knob on the front and a proper trials radial on the back and it is unstoppable.
It kicks hard like a trials bike does, this is the only negative for smaller young riders or say most women.
A proper enduro geared 6 speed tranny would be great but that would require a complete different engine.
The 290 trials engine is a proven trials engine and silly simple.
Hope my ramble helped answer your question.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: david.bergen on July 10, 2014, 05:25:25 AM
Boom boom,
Thank you for the info. That's what I am looking for.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Fasteer on September 09, 2014, 02:46:46 PM

It kicks hard like a trials bike does, this is the only negative for smaller young riders or say most women.

you mean it is difficult to kick start?  Takes a big effort or doesn't want to fire?
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Clay on September 09, 2014, 04:03:57 PM
It fires fine but has quite a bit of compression.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Fasteer on September 10, 2014, 05:40:32 PM
Has anybody solved the spark arrestor issue?
Would something like this work?
http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/905/23208/Pro-Moto-Billet-Endos-Spark-Arrestor-End-Cap?term=usfs (http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/905/23208/Pro-Moto-Billet-Endos-Spark-Arrestor-End-Cap?term=usfs) spark arrestor
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: weantright on September 11, 2014, 05:45:54 AM
Has anybody solved the spark arrestor issue?
Would something like this work?
http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/905/23208/Pro-Moto-Billet-Endos-Spark-Arrestor-End-Cap?term=usfs (http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/905/23208/Pro-Moto-Billet-Endos-Spark-Arrestor-End-Cap?term=usfs) spark arrestor

Depends on where you live and how the ranger/inspector is. It needs to have "US Forest approved arrester" stamped on it for 100% legal and most likely that end cap will not fit the Sherco. Modifying it will work and if keeping the stamped markings visible is the next best thing. Where I ride I have never seen anyone poke or look for one. I have built several from Home Depo sink drain screen for $5. Make sure it's the SS one and pinch it between the end cap and internal tube.

https://www.plumbingsupply.com/stainlessscreenstrainers.html (https://www.plumbingsupply.com/stainlessscreenstrainers.html)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Clay on September 11, 2014, 05:45:50 PM
Has anybody solved the spark arrestor issue?
Would something like this work?
http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/905/23208/Pro-Moto-Billet-Endos-Spark-Arrestor-End-Cap?term=usfs (http://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/905/23208/Pro-Moto-Billet-Endos-Spark-Arrestor-End-Cap?term=usfs) spark arrestor

Depends on where you live and how the ranger/inspector is. It needs to have "US Forest approved arrester" stamped on it for 100% legal and most likely that end cap will not fit the Sherco. Modifying it will work and if keeping the stamped markings visible is the next best thing. Where I ride I have never seen anyone poke or look for one. I have built several from Home Depo sink drain screen for $5. Make sure it's the SS one and pinch it between the end cap and internal tube.

https://www.plumbingsupply.com/stainlessscreenstrainers.html (https://www.plumbingsupply.com/stainlessscreenstrainers.html)

The level of ingenuity in the dirt bike world never ceases to amaze me! 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Fasteer on September 11, 2014, 06:41:52 PM
yup, that's genius.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Boom Boom on September 12, 2014, 06:19:40 PM
http://www.lewisportusa.com/parts_muffler.htm (http://www.lewisportusa.com/parts_muffler.htm)

Check out the S/A that Lewisport has. The one listed for a 4RT should work and has the USFS stamp. Bit expensive but if you need the USFS stamp not many options.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on September 14, 2014, 05:47:52 PM
Nice to see the X-ride in the press...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-drive/news/off-the-streets/two-off-road-bikes-with-terrain-gobbling-power/article20548674/ (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-drive/news/off-the-streets/two-off-road-bikes-with-terrain-gobbling-power/article20548674/)

http://trailrider.com/magazine/?p=499 (http://trailrider.com/magazine/?p=499)


Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Fasteer on September 16, 2014, 07:45:40 PM
My friendly dealer let me take the X Ride for a short spin around the parking lot.
I like this bike !
But first I had to start it.
Kicked it several times before I noticed the gas was turned off ...
I hate how it kick-starts, not just the compression but that you have to kick towards the rear at the top of the stroke then run out of stroke about 2/3 of the way through.
I'm told this is a trials thing.
Afterwards i shut it off and restarted it several times.
Maybe you would get used to it but it was a deal breaker for me. 
EFI and e-start, please, Sherco.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on December 15, 2014, 09:07:39 AM
Great day to be out on the X-Ride I even found some nice smooth trails to ride :).

(http://dualsport.ca/Forum/uploads/653/2014-12-15_trail.jpg)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: P A Rider on March 13, 2016, 04:29:39 PM
So I had the X Ride out with all the fast guys today and came back smiling ! I used all the fork and shock travel for sure , so has anyone done any work to the suspension ? Otherwise this bike is a blast !
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on March 13, 2016, 06:26:11 PM
I think you will or have found that the X-Ride is not a trials bike nor an enduro. I just accept the last rider out position and enjoy myself. I'm never that far behind and frequently catch up, when I find one of them crashed or stalled in a difficult trail section.

Art
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: P A Rider on March 14, 2016, 03:32:49 PM
I do accept that roll and love it  :D on my half breed bike for sure . I just like improving my bikes n that is the main item that I would like to change . I will talk to Drew Smith at WER and see what he has to say ? ::)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on March 14, 2016, 06:11:02 PM
Looked back through the thread and realized that the most of the X-Ride owners have had their Sherco's awhile. Did not mean to come across like a expert.  I'm finding it interesting that we seem to feel the X-Ride is worth hanging onto.  The dealers had a hard time selling them and it's rare to find a used one for sale. May be that there is just not many out there.
As to modding the suspension. I'm satisfied with the stock, and have decreased the dampening just a bit to respond more like a trials machine.  I also have the feeling that the whole design, frame geometry, strength will just not work well when pushed like a heaver built Sherco.  Have to say have not had any problems that would be related to it's light weight build.  Other X-Ride owners need to add as to how they ride. I just don't push mine that hard.

Art 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Boom Boom on March 15, 2016, 04:36:03 AM
My $.02 on the suspension is just ride it.
The sit to stand relationship is too great to attempt to push the bike hard sitting.
I have done well hanging with the faster enduro bikes in the rocky nasty single track but it requires you to ride standing and your legs become the suspension just like with the trials bike. The true weak link to working well as a nimble quicker trail bike is the trials geared tranny.  The gap from 3rd to 4th just kills you when trying to move at a decent clip.  Smaller rear or up one on the front sprocket helps make 3rd work a bit better but then 4th and 5th are truly worthless unless on wide open trail.
I just do not see the existing suspension tolerating being pounded hard like a proper enduro bike.  The X-ride is the perfect cheater bike for those that want to ride places that a trials bike would be the ticket but want the comfort of sitting and ability to touch the ground and dog paddle thru anything that comes along.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: P A Rider on March 15, 2016, 04:57:54 PM
I love that the bike is what it is and enjoy mostly cruising along as a trials type bike with a seat . But have found myself being the anchor of the group last one to get caught up . But I do agree that we have a very unique bike for sure and will not change it for a while since we CFO Barbara and I just planned our vacations . That will require a fast or very slow bike so the X Ride will not see alot of time on it . As far as selling it Not Likely . Just to much fun !  ;D
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on March 15, 2016, 06:25:59 PM
I've been hanging out at the last couple events held by the area trials club, and this has sure pointed out that the X-Ride is not going to fill that desire to use for trials events. At least with my abilities. Looks like the garage may need the addition of a Sherco. ST.

Art
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Boom Boom on March 16, 2016, 05:20:39 AM
I've been hanging out at the last couple events held by the area trials club, and this has sure pointed out that the X-Ride is not going to fill that desire to use for trials events. At least with my abilities. Looks like the garage may need the addition of a Sherco. ST.

Art

Could not agree more.
However our vintage events allows a modern bike class and I had good fun on mine having a go at it.  Tight turns was the only thing to take me out.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on March 19, 2016, 07:27:58 AM
Has any one riden or compared both the X Ride and the Beta X Trainer? Thanks
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on March 28, 2016, 08:47:45 AM
I find that if I let the bike sit for a while the clutch tend to stick so when I snap it into gear it is best to have a clear path ahead... Clutch works fine after a minute or 2. I have read (on trials central) that putting it in 5th and rocking it back and forth before starting can fix this or putting it in 5th and kicking it over with the bike turned of is another solution. I don't seem to have the same issue with my ST but it is a 2015 so it may just be a matter of time. 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on March 28, 2016, 10:28:13 AM
Comparing the X-Ride to the Beta. On the last single track ride we had a rider with us on the Beta. First, must say he is a good trials rider and he can really ride the Cross Trainer. Lots of power off the bottom and geared perfect for tight single track. So if you like to kick up the pace to enduro level it's a real nice choice. Definitely easier to ride than a KTM 300 EXC-W. Build quality seems very good.  Still I'm more of a Sherco X-Ride person.  I like the gearing for a slower pace, and the lighter weight. If I were a bit younger physically I'd love the Beta, but there are lots of choices for good enduro rides.

As to the clutch drag. First do a couple changes with a relative inexpensive oil. I used Rotella T-6 and was surprised at how well the clutch felt using the T-6. I've got  Maxima MTL 80 wt in there now and it seems good with that, but really no better than the T-6. The garage has been in the low 40's F. temp wise and when I start it I  give it a minute or two to warm and find if I pull the clutch in and rock it back and forth and rev it some it seems to free up the plates with the cold trans fluid when I shift into a gear.

Art
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on March 30, 2016, 03:51:11 PM
After a good day of single track took the usual, for me, garage day to go over the Sherco.

Does your kick stat lever make contact with your foot peg at end of stroke? Try this.

It has bugged me that the kick starter lever makes contact with the foot peg at it's end of travel. I found I could move it one notch on the spline and low and behold it stops it's stroke just before contact with the foot peg. It then hits a side case bolt on folding back and up and need a bit of help to fold and comes to rest when folded against the side case. I deepened the notch on the kick start lever some and this makes it fold in easy. The lever is a bit taller to kick but it seems to like the extra travel and starts better, especially when cold.

Art
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on March 30, 2016, 06:14:59 PM
That is great news as that bugs me as well.

not exactly sure what you mean by "I deepened the notch on the kick start lever some and this makes it fold in easy." maybe a picture would help.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on March 30, 2016, 07:07:21 PM
That is great news as that bugs me as well.

not exactly sure what you mean by "I deepened the notch on the kick start lever some and this makes it fold in easy." maybe a picture would help.

Haven't used the camera in a while and battery needed charging.
When the lever is folded up and in there is one clutch side case bolt head that is close to the kick start lever. On the inside of the lever there is a notch which provides clearance for the bolt head. It also is the place that one of the set screws for the lever hinge is located. When you move the kick start lever on the splines it becomes obvious that it will not fold behind the clutch side case if moved more than one spline. Filing that notch on the kick start lever a bit deeper allowed the lever to fold easily, but the kick start lever does now just touch the clutch side case when folded up and in. Hope that helps. It's very obvious when you move the kick start lever on the shaft splines.

Art
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on March 31, 2016, 01:56:12 PM
So would you owners buy another X-Ride?
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: kkim on March 31, 2016, 02:04:13 PM
So would you owners but another X-Ride?

I would, but I'm old and slow. It depends on what you are looking to get out of this bike. I wish Sherco would add electric start to this motor which would make it perfect for me, but I know that will never happen, so I added a Beta Xtrainer to the garage to keep the Xride company. :)

Both are great bikes with slightly different missions.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on March 31, 2016, 05:38:45 PM
Would I buy another X-Ride?

Here again I fit the riding style of "old and slow". I can approach a tricky rough trail section and the X-Ride brings a big grin on my face at how it finds traction, doesn't stall, just pulls through stuff so nicely. Push it fast and the gearing is wrong, and the suspension is not right, and  it's a great work out machine for me as I stand on the pegs 99.5% of the time.  If I eventually get a trials machine, it will be interesting to see if the X-Ride gets sold.

Art
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Boom Boom on April 01, 2016, 03:45:45 AM
Sherco needs to step up the game with this bike if it wants to increase sales.  The Beta Cross Trainer is close in purchase price and offers a nicely sorted out product.
If Sherco would just change the gearing to be more trail friendly that would be a huge step in the correct direction.  It is not a trials bike and should not have trials gearing.
The torque of the trials engine is what makes this bike so friendly and easy to ride. 
Sherco either needs to lower the price or make some improvements to gain market share.
That said if I could only own one bike it would be the X-ride.  I can still ride trials type conditions and still cover modest trail distance with ease and in modest comfort.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on April 01, 2016, 03:57:01 AM
Back in January, 2016, I saw Rosco who started this thread win an indoor Enduro Cross on an X-Ride competing against KTMs, Huskys, Yamahas, ect. It was an impressive win for the bike and rider. Now he has the X-Ride and a X-Trainer for sale. I am old and ride slow. I see Sherco has a very unimpressive Web site and no aftermarket support whereas Beta has both. I think the X-Ride would fit me welll but Beta would have better support and resale. Next weekend, weather permitting, I am test riding both. :)   :)
 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Clay on April 02, 2016, 07:48:42 AM
The Beta X Trainer and the X Ride are two totally different bikes. The X Trainer is a modified enduro bike and the X Ride is a modified trials bike. I have to give it to Beta....that X Trainer is a cool motorcycle that the market has wanted for a long time. This kind of illustrates two different marketing philosophies that Sherco and Beta have. Sherco is the typical Euro company that believe the off road world evolves around European racing and Beta has elected to put all of their eggs in the US basket. I have an idea how many motorcycles Beta sells and I have an idea how much Beta spends on racing here and it doesn't make sense unless you figure that this is their race budget for the world. My point though is that Beta in Italy listens more to what we want here in the US than Sherco does but Sherco will get better at listening to us here when my numbers get higher. And they will.
As far as the website and other things mentioned..... Please keep in mind that Beta owns the company that sells Betas here in the US so Beta puts money into employees, websites, racing etc. I am an independent distributor and whatever gets done here in the US is on my nickle. Sherco gives me some discounts on bikes and that is it! Honestly it has been tough for the last couple of years but, so far, 2016 has picked up substantially and if it continues into 2017 I will be in good shape next year to do more with my website and race support. Even though my company is smaller I hope that the fact that I am accessible to you guys means something. I am and should be the expert on Sherco here in the US and I'll answer my phone on Sunday afternoon if you have a question. A couple of weeks ago I had a customer call me while at the gas stop at an enduro in TX.  ;D
I still say the best marketing tool in the industry is happy customers here on this forum and I appreciate all of your help. For example: Almost every time I speak to a customer they ask about parts availability and I try to reassure them that I have parts and then I ask them if they have been on this forum. They almost always say they have and so I ask if they have seen any complaints about a shortage of parts. Of course the answer is no and that pretty much ends the parts concern that everyone has.
Speaking of parts.... I have just begun to use DHL and they have cut the shipping time from France to 5 days. It was 10 with UPS. Pretty happy about that!
Back to Harry's point on aftermarket support..... The parts that fit the bigger Betas will fit he X Trainer. The X Ride is a totally different bike and it's small numbers  so, no, the aftermarket companies won't build parts for it. On resale I have to disagree. Sherco and Betas have been holding their values well and guys get good money for their used bikes. I was concerned about this when I started this but it has not been an issue.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on April 02, 2016, 10:11:57 AM
It would be interesting to compare, the Sherco 250 & 300 SEF enduros  to the Beta X-Trainer, for the begining enduro, single track rider. Does Sherco need a de-tuned enduro?

Art
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: weantright on April 04, 2016, 05:24:01 AM
It would be interesting to compare, the Sherco 250 & 300 SEF enduros  to the Beta X-Trainer, for the begining enduro, single track rider. Does Sherco need a de-tuned enduro?

Art

This would not be a fair comparison. If you research the XTrainer a little you will see when this bike is rode aggressively the suspension can't handle it. This alone would fail in any comparison between any of the 4t Sherco's. This bike is not a true race bred enduro rather a beginner play bike.

Personally on paper because I haven't seen either bikes in person, why would you buy a X-ride?? As Clay posted the X-ride is an euro bike and not what we want. If you're pro Sherco then great but for the same cost you can get an all around, modern 3/4 size play bike that can ride trials type trails. If I would race trials neither of these I would have.

Websites are the handshake into your company. Without a good one people struggle to see what the brand brings. Sherco's site provides the basics needed to do this. While the aftermarket is limited there's plenty of protection for the bike. Anymore more and it's just bling for the parking lots.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on April 04, 2016, 07:06:18 AM
A lot of people get to much into the motorcycle and reviews of "best this and that". First is to get a good hold of how one rides and wants to ride, and next to where you get to do the majority of your riding.

The recent example I have is of a rider who talked to me a bit while up riding some tight woods single track. He was on a Honda CRF 450 motocross machine and was not having a good day riding the thing in the trails. Saying he almost never gets it out of first gear and stalling it a lot on the down hill turns. He commented on how easy the Sherco X-Ride gets around, but I know he would not be happy with the X-Ride for how he wants to ride.

Art
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on April 05, 2016, 09:56:57 AM
I love riding single track but I want to see and enjoy the scenery too. Young riders are more interested in speed. They don't care what they miss. The X-Ride at 210 pounds fueled could be a Euro bike designed for aging Trials and Trail riders. Four more days before I get a test ride. Aftermarket foot pegs, LEDs, Seat Concept seats, replacement plastics, aren't parking lot bling, they are called farkles.

 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Dan on April 06, 2016, 06:46:37 AM
As a 77-year old dirtbiker, the low seat height, low weight and ease of maintenance caused me to buy a 290 X-Ride. I bought it 3 years ago and am generally satisfied with it - mainly due to the "go-anywhere" capability. I recently had Sprocket Specialists of Richfield UT make a 35 tooth rear sprocket to replace the 38 tooth stock sprocket. This gearing is ideal for my type of riding (Yellowstone River breaks) and I am pleased with sprocket quality. I sent my original sprocket to Sprocket Specialists and they now have a CNC program for the Sherco X-Rides. I can still ride most trails in 4th gear and when the going gets gnarly I have plenty of gears to mess with. Now-if they only made an e-start!
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on April 06, 2016, 08:30:16 AM
Thanks for posting that Dan, that is really good to know.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on April 11, 2016, 11:20:48 AM
So Potter your in Rapid City too?  Oh then my annoying issues I had with my Bike I really liked it.  The Beta X was the bike I originally wanted, X-ride fits me better.  I don't get the gearing issue.  I like the stock gearing and it works just fine.  I guess maybe the super top end isn't there but that doesn't bother me. 

Electric start would be perfect but once I got the fuel mix leaned out a bit the starting issues went away and 2 kicks will get it running.  I would like a neutral light as well, minor.

How I see the X-ride vs the X trainer: Sherco took a trails bike and made it more enduro.  Beta took an Enduro and made it more trials.  Both are just on thier side of the crossover line between trials | enduro.     I have seen many more Sherco's recently at the King of the Motos race then I ever though I would have.   
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on April 11, 2016, 07:19:13 PM
Well I test rode four bikes last weekend: X-Ride, 2016 Beta 500RS, 2016 Beta X-Trainer, and a 2016 Sherco 300 2T. As a preface I already have a 2015 Sherco 300 Trials bike and a 2011 Beta 450RR. The Beta 500RS had the highway sprocket on it so I really didn't get a feeling of how it would be in the woods. The Sherco 2016 300 2t had a mild and a wild switch that actually did something. If I was younger that bike would deserve a longer test ride. The Beta X-Trainer had my clutch hand hurting almost immediately. I have already had one surgery on that hand from pulling a clutch on a BMW 1200GS to Alaska and back. I didn't see any reason to unload my 450RR for the X-Trainer. As to the X-Ride I loved it. The clutch was so easy on my hand. The suspension was the best according to my constant back pain, (after my first back surgery I was told to quit motorcycles.) The X-Ride was the least tiring to ride of all four bikes and that's standing up all the time.  If the X-Trainer is supposed to be very good in the woods, I would give the X-Ride an Excellent in the woods. I would bet that only one batch run of the X-Ride has been done. If not why didn't Sherco correct a few minor things to make this bike a top competitor in the fun bike category. Hell they haven't even given it Bold New Graphics. By far and away the X-Ride was the ugliest of the four with the Sherco 300 and the Beta 500RS tied for first. Clay are there any new 2016 Sherco graphics that will fit on the X-Ride and would the bike power a pair of small LED trail lights? There could be some changes in the stable next weekend.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Clay on April 12, 2016, 06:32:33 AM
No different graphics are available from Sherco and it will power the lights.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on April 12, 2016, 01:00:20 PM
Another plus for the X-Ride.  On a recent ride a friend with his Montesa 4RT, set up with the trail seat and gas tank, was steaming and overheating on the longer hills. This has not happened to me with the Sherco.

A while back I noted issues with the plug being black and oil covered, and I was running 70:1 oil mix and as advised from the Maxima oil site info this can make for a rich fuel mix. I returned to the 50:1, or 2% Sherco recommendation and the plug color is back to light brown and is reasonably dry of oil.

Art
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on April 12, 2016, 07:36:09 PM
The headlight doesn't give a lot of light but  I think I would go with a helmet mounted light before LED trail lights as I find that when wheeling at night the headlight is in the trees and it is kind of hard to see where you are going   ;D 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: rosco on April 16, 2016, 03:20:30 PM
I agree with Harry Potter.  The X-ride has been around long enough and has proved to be a very popular bike.  Sherco needs to start doing some upgrades on it.  While e-start would be cool I can't say as that would be something that I would want on one.  I think in order to keep it in its own class they need to keep it more on the trials side.  I think if they spaced out the first 3 gears would be nice though.  I would also like to see them come with a removable spark arrestor.  That's really about it I guess.  They are a cool bike though.  Nobody else makes a bike in the same category as the X-ride.  I'm hoping to have one of my own someday.
 I raced my floor model here at a local indoor enduro race last January.  It was a blast.  I wish I would have been in a little better shape though.  I won the over 50 class but I think I could have competed with the younger guys If I would have had a little more gas in my tank! Ha! ;D
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on April 16, 2016, 09:00:02 PM
I traded a Beta in today on an X-Ride and I can't wait to make it my own. Since this is the longest and best blog on the Earth for the X-Ride, let's keep the good information coming.  :)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on April 16, 2016, 10:03:15 PM
Enjoy the X-Ride. If you have looked through the X-Ride threads you will see there are a couple major things to check before getting it out in the dirt. The airbox can have a couple major concerns. First a hole in the bottom which should have a rubber drain or plug was found by some owners to be missing and open to suck unfiltered air into the carb. Second the airbox to carb boot flange under the clamp has been found cracked. Mine was totally broken off the airbox. So check the airbox over carefully.  The other items that I have addressed would be for better protection for mud dirt getting to the radiator and airbox intake. I think one of the first X-Ride threads, done a couple years back covers making a simple floor in the sub-frame between the airbox and the muffler which works to keep the mud and water flung off the rear tire from getting into the air intake. Check the airbox and carb boot for looseness before any riding. Mud and dust "control" are more of a personal thing I guess and not critical.  I now have run over 50 hours on the motor and it is 100%. I guess I should add that the speedometer has never worked, and removed it, along with the turn signals and tail light. I did keep the head light which works good for trail needs if caught out after dark.  I have no desire to plate or license the X-Ride.
The X-Ride is going to be a very different ride than your Beta. Hope to works for you. I would choose it over the CrossTrainer as I want a more trials like trail machine.

Art
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on April 21, 2016, 09:41:18 AM
Do you X-Ride owners have a favorite tire combo?
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: kkim on April 21, 2016, 09:47:23 AM
Mich S12 front/ IRC competition trials rear.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on April 22, 2016, 05:02:58 AM
So a trials rear and your favorite knobby up front on the X-Ride. I read under Sherco tech that a 80/100 size front seems to be a favorite on other Sherco bikes. I've been reading the tire test on dirtbiketest.com and the rear cross over trials tires look interesting.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on April 22, 2016, 05:55:06 AM
Mine is still stock :)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on April 22, 2016, 07:10:32 PM
How often do you X-Ride owners remove your sparkplug for various reasons? I must be showing my age and how I used to check over a 2-stroke as I tend to remove it and clean it a bit every ride.  Have to admit that the plug has always showed normal to slightly rich fueling and I'm happy with the way it runs.

Art
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on April 23, 2016, 03:54:17 AM
Well I haven't even picked up the bike yet but I got an NGK Iridium plug coming.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on April 23, 2016, 06:35:08 AM
I guess with the Iridium plug it does not need cleaning or seldom does. I raised this question as my riding bud just picked up a "OB" FreeRide. The owners manual states the fuel mix for the FreeRide is 80:1. In looking over his new baby the exhaust is showing more oil than my X-Ride so I suggested we take a look at the spark plug. Well it is hidden and to get to it requires removal of the tank plastic and the gas tank. The owners manual does not even mention checking the spark plug other than giving specs. So I was wondering if my habit of cleaning and keeping a clean plug in the X-Ride is just an old habit I have from my 2-stroke days back in the 80's.

Art
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on April 23, 2016, 09:15:35 AM
Autozone had the plugs, fyi.  I found one at a bike shop for some $17 bucks only to find Autozone had them for $3 mile down the street. 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on April 23, 2016, 12:16:44 PM
As you say lots of sources for the X-Ride spark plug. Even found them at Walmart. The standard plugs seem to work fine so have not felt the need for the Iridium and fine wire type. Generally use the NGK plugs but the Denso and Champion work just as well with the X-Ride.

Art
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on April 23, 2016, 12:37:01 PM
My local Napa dealer didn't have them in stock so I has them order a pair. So did you guys do all the mud guarding mentioned on the first page?
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: kkim on April 23, 2016, 12:45:19 PM
So did you guys do all the mud guarding mentioned on the first page?

I did. Also, sealing up the bottom hole of the airbox is crucial to keep dirt out of the engine as the hole is downstream of the filter. Very poor airbox design.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on April 23, 2016, 02:49:05 PM
Here are a couple mods.
Pre-filter for airbox works good.

A lot of dust comes from under the tank to the airbox, so foam in the openings forward on the tank work to reduce this.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on April 23, 2016, 02:51:54 PM
extra mud flaps reduce the mud that gets through those fender air slots.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on April 23, 2016, 02:54:18 PM
turn out on the exhaust keeps mud from going right into the muffler.
Piece of thin chrome/plated  brass plumbing from the hardware store.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on April 23, 2016, 02:57:12 PM
extension off the rear mudflap keeps mud out of the lower shock mount.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on April 23, 2016, 03:06:41 PM
I use a lot of duck tape try ideas and even to attach stuff rather than drill holes and use hardware. Seems to work better than expected most of time.

Art
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on April 23, 2016, 08:23:57 PM
Thanks Art for the additional photos. Where did you get the foam? Where you still able to use a spark arrestor with the angled plumbing fitting? Thanks  :)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on April 24, 2016, 06:24:50 AM
Uni Filters sells filter foam in sheets and various thickness.  As I am not oiling these pieces I'm just using foam sheets I saved off packing. As the muffler is not a straight through design I have not worried about a spark arrester. I only ride single track in the state designated areas and frequently run into the state trail crews and they only check for the ORV tags.  If you add one to the outlet it will probably move the outlet enough so mud will not find its way into the muffler.

I look at the Trials Central website often and manufacture have posted on the home page articles on prep for the Scottish Six Day Trials which is always very wet and muddy. Good information there.

Art
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on April 26, 2016, 05:34:41 PM
A good friend and riding buddy, made a switch from the "OB" 300 XC-W to a "OB" FreeRide. These last several days it has been interesting riding and comparing my Sherco X-Ride and his FreeRide. Two somewhat different but alike machines. Weight and size about the same with the Sherco having a couple inches lower seat height. The gear ratios are a big difference with the Sherco having trials ratios and the FreeRide geared more like a trail machine. The big difference in the riding is the Sherco goes slow much easier. If the Sherco is given even the least amount of throttle it keeps on chugging and finding traction even when I should have shifted down. My friends very happy with how easy it is to ride the FreeRide compared to his last machine, and still likes to set a faster pace through the rough than I do. Better at going slow, may sound weird, but for me it keeps me riding and having a great time.

Art
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on April 26, 2016, 07:19:32 PM
Hi Art, Your last sentence is exactly why I bought the X-Ride. And I like a bike that keeps me moving forward even when I am in the wrong gear. I talked to my dealer today and he might have it ready by this weekend for me to pick up. Excited!
 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on May 01, 2016, 06:33:28 AM
April 30th and the weather gives me snow to bring my new X-Ride home. Guess I'll get to check her snow capability.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on May 01, 2016, 12:02:58 PM
Congrats on the new X-Ride.
Snow..  well that will not stick around long. I've had mine in some snow on a couple rides. Sure will teach keeping man and machine balanced and upright.
I like those gold hubs. Looks like they moved the rear turn signals forward. Were the hand guards add-ons?
Enjoy,
Art
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on May 01, 2016, 01:25:48 PM
A while back there was discussion on oil/gas ratios.
I had tried going to 80:1 and with stock jetting I did not feel the jetting was right and did some research and decided to go back to what Sherco recommends for the X-Ride of 2% and 50:1 ratio and went with a low flash point oil which should work well with the easy riding that I do on the X-Ride.
I now have about 6 hours riding and gone through a couple tanks of 50:1 fuel using Maxima Bio 2T. One of the lowest flash point oils I looked into. Throttle response is really great and plug color is light brown and almost dry, and muffler oiling, "the sponge", is acceptable, maybe even less than the 80:1.   This may be due to the lower flash point oil or the fact that the engine temperatures are up some with the better jetting, leaner fueling with the 50:1 fuel.  I ride at 100 ft to 2,500 ft elevation.  To my way of thinking it was a lot easier to change back to 50:1 verses changing carb jets which the 80:1 ratio seemed to need.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on May 01, 2016, 05:20:55 PM
I do like the black plastic and rims on the newer bikes vs the white and silver on mine.  Little bummed when buddy asked why mine didn't have the black rims.  Little nothing I know.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Clay on May 02, 2016, 07:14:24 AM
Congrats on the new X-Ride.
Snow..  well that will not stick around long. I've had mine in some snow on a couple rides. Sure will teach keeping man and machine balanced and upright.
I like those gold hubs. Looks like they moved the rear turn signals forward. Were the hand guards add-ons?
Enjoy,
Art
Disclaimer: The X-Ride does not come with turn signals. The bike is not street legal. The turn signals were added by the customer.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: rosco on May 02, 2016, 08:05:16 PM
We can always add some grip studs to those tires if you want Tim!  Hope you like the new bike and thanks!
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on May 02, 2016, 08:48:24 PM
Sorry i've had to take a break from the X-Ride forum to go to a Paul McCartney concert. I hate to admit it but his tribute to George Harrison brought  tears to my eyes. So tomorrow I'll post my first 4 hour ride report.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on May 04, 2016, 09:23:12 AM
Last seen heading into the woods with a tear in his eye...
Either Harry is having too much fun and has lost track of time or maybe he felt he just had to try that backflip in the sales video... curiosity can be a killer. Sure hope there are pictures to go along with the ride report :)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on May 04, 2016, 09:58:57 AM
The post reminded me of a sitcom I catch frequently, "The Vicar of Dibley" and one of the characters, Frank Pickle, when Harry mentioned a "four hour ride report".

Art
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on May 04, 2016, 08:11:41 PM
Wow I didn't know anybody was actually interested. It's the photos part that is causing the delay. I have to get my kids to help me in getting the images from the camera and into the blog. Tomorrow night Ok?
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on May 05, 2016, 05:04:09 AM
Just happy to hear you are still with us. Reminds me of a time I guy left my place and was going to take a route he didn't know through the woods I asked him to post on the local forum so I would know he made it ok... well he ended up getting chased by a bear and getting lost he eventually made it home later that night but forgot all about posting. It took me 3 days to hunt down somebody who knew the guy and  find out what had happened :).
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on May 05, 2016, 08:30:14 PM
Posting with pictures is really frustrating for me.
 The X-Ride is like a modern version of the 77 Yamaha TY250. Very similar riding bikes. If you look closely you can see I have knobbies on the Ty that are studded making it great in about 6 inch snow and awesome on ice. So no need to stud the X-Ride.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on May 05, 2016, 08:43:13 PM
On Sunday the sun came out and I got to take her into the woods. I couldn't judge the tires because everything was very slick to start. Some hills that I couldn't go up about an hour later they where no problem. The first thing I noticed was the rear brake lever, it was way to low for me. Hopefully there is some adjustment there. I traded a Beta 450 4T for this bike and I hate to say it but the Beta was just as easy to ride on these same single tracts. One time off path stuck nose down in a deep "V" the Beta would have stalled but the X-Ride stayed alive and was so easy and fun to work it out. So the X-Ride being lighter and smaller is easier to manhandle when needed. On logging trails I didn't feel any need to change sprockets but then I was riding alone and not in a pack of young bucks. For oil I was running Yamaha High Performance 2T RR at 1/50 mix. The bike started easily and ran really good. This was just above 4000 feet.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on May 05, 2016, 09:07:46 PM
Like most as soon as I get a new bike I like to make it my own. So like a little kid when somebody says you can't do that it is the first thing you do. So the blinkers (front stock Sherco) and rear Tusk? on the side where loads of OB riders put them. Somebody said they thought the 2016 plastic was black but it is white.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on May 05, 2016, 09:16:16 PM
I went with a Red S3 handle bar because blue is out of stock for many months. I was told the S3 factory burnt down. So the red handle bar with the red tethered kill switch makes the bike red, white, and Blue, very American. I went with a Double Take Mirror on a Ram mount. I also put a ram mount for a GPS but not sure which GPS or final mount at this time. The wrist wrap kill switch, the S3 grips, the blue S3 levers, and S3 handle bar came from RYPUSA.com
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on May 05, 2016, 09:31:21 PM
The rims actually aren't black but a very dark blue. I added Sherco rim stickers four on each wheel front and back. The rim Stickers and the blue S3 foot pegs came from RYPUSA.com  The Sherco green reflectors on the front forks are Bell bicycle pant cuff rings. I also added a small orange reflector in the little bolt hole. Oh red air valve caps. Blue Dirt Skin fork seal boots are on the way.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on May 05, 2016, 10:09:32 PM
My two Shercos. If I could only keep one it would be the 2015 300 Trials bike. No matter what's in the stable, for me one has got to be a trials bike.  Today I took the X-Ride out on the pavement for the first time and felt the 35 tooth rear sprocket would be the next thing I ordered. I love Trials bikes and really don't mind the 1-3 trials gears on the X-Ride but on the pavement she whines with the stock gearing. I do miss the Beta 450 4T dual sport and in many ways it was a better companion to Sherco 300 trials bike. So why did I buy an X-Ride? The X-Ride will be less tiring for me to keep up with young guys in the gnarly stuff and the stand up riding on the X-Ride is excellent. As I get older I'll be able to ride the X-Ride longer, I won't have to quit trail riding as soon or God forbid switch to an ATV. The X-Ride is first and foremost a Trail Bike.
The stock seat on the X-Ride is too low for me  making sitting very cramped. I am 5'-8" and shrinking. Tomorrow I am adding an Air Hawk and if that doesn't work a custom seat will be in the works. The springs on the X-Ride feels great to my back. The clutch is so easy to pull, no finger pain at all. So I'll keep the X-Ride but there is a good chance I'll sell something to get another Beta RS dual sport.
Oh I also installed a Cyclops LED headlight on the bike it works great and I don't think I'll need to add any additional lighting.
Friday afternoon she gets her first visit to a Motocross track. I have not had time yet to add the additional mudguards or air filtering but I will.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on May 06, 2016, 08:38:32 AM
Great read! I agree I would keep my 2015 ST over my Xride but it is awesome having both :).
They went to black fenders for the 2016 Trials bikes but I prefer the white.
I am tempted by the rear blinkers I took mine off to do a trials event as I figured they would be ripped off if I didn't. Then I had to reinstall them after the event, the flush mount ones would be a better way to go.
I also like the idea of getting a larger dualsport one of these days for longer excursions but I don't have enough time to ride the bikes I already have - LOL!   
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on May 06, 2016, 09:28:17 AM
Enjoy the X-Ride. At times I think I should have gone for a trials machine, but it does get around single track as well and maybe better than a trials machine, and certain nice to have the bigger tank and seat, for moments when I want to plant a foot in a turn.  It's all about how you want to ride and where you ride.

Art
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on May 06, 2016, 08:57:50 PM
I put on the Air Hawk today and I think that it is going to work ok with no custom seat needed. I also took the bike to a Motocross Track, www.jvcycleclub.weebly.com (http://www.jvcycleclub.weebly.com)  and had a blast. No way would I have guessed the bike would handle so well there. I came home feeling the
bike really is going to be a keeper.  To bad it's raining now, the track will be a mud mess for several days. X-Ride  :) :) :)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on May 07, 2016, 08:12:21 AM
There also is a motocross track and club here, with a yearly fee to ride the track for practice. It has a lot of big air jumps and design that really dates me for when I rode any motocross.  What works for me is several off road riding areas with good single track, one just a couple miles from the house and the others 25 miles distance. We also have National and State forests for thousands of miles of exploring. So the garage has the Sherco with it's orv tags for the single track and the DR-Z Suzuki for the dual sport riding. Whats holding me back on getting a trials machine is the limited use it would see, as the trials events and club are not reasonably close and events are spread all over the Northwest.  But never can tell what an addict will do to satisfy his need.

Art
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on May 07, 2016, 06:14:11 PM
You can do what I did and start putting on your own trials events... started with 2 or 3 guys now have about 24 guys and gals riding locally and 5 of us each putting on events each makes for a great series - build it and they will come  :d
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on May 07, 2016, 06:52:18 PM
I think you have the best ideas for getting trials activity started in an area.  Starting small and pretty simple either gets better or fizzles.
Several of us have kicked around finding areas to use for trials and even that is not easy to establish.
Art
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on May 08, 2016, 07:21:48 AM
Looks like summer is here. Had to search to find any mud holes and when I got back to the garage took the compressor and only had to blow off dust. Temperatures still hanging around 70 F which is nice.

Art
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on May 08, 2016, 08:38:24 AM
Sometimes I think the X-Ride was designed to catch mud. Encase someone out there can't see an X-Ride in person here is a size comparison. The Yamaha WR250R looks pretty big in comparison.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on May 08, 2016, 12:36:23 PM
Get used to a 200 lb machine and a 300 lb one seems like a "pig".   :o
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Sherco Shirly on May 09, 2016, 09:26:21 PM
Hey fellas,
I've been enjoying my new SWM this last month and have lost track of whats happening. Have we been able to gear the X-ride up yet? I took her out for an hour on sunday and I had forgotten just how much it needs to be geared up.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on May 10, 2016, 05:11:42 AM
See middle of page 5 for a 35 tooth rear sprocket. :)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on May 10, 2016, 09:42:45 AM
I tried a 10 tooth front sprocket but went back to the 9 as I prefer having it a bit snappier and the small increase in the top end speed wasn't worth it.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: kkim on May 10, 2016, 10:37:00 AM
I tried a 10 tooth front sprocket but went back to the 9 as I prefer having it a bit snappier and the small increase in the top end speed wasn't worth it.

I use a 9T as well. Going larger than stock makes the jump from 4th to 5th worse. Unless you are using the bike as a dual sport, the 9T makes 5th usable. 2-4 are perfect now for single track. 1st is now a granny gear.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Sherco Shirly on May 10, 2016, 11:31:40 PM
As a 77-year old dirtbiker, the low seat height, low weight and ease of maintenance caused me to buy a 290 X-Ride. I bought it 3 years ago and am generally satisfied with it - mainly due to the "go-anywhere" capability. I recently had Sprocket Specialists of Richfield UT make a 35 tooth rear sprocket to replace the 38 tooth stock sprocket. This gearing is ideal for my type of riding (Yellowstone River breaks) and I am pleased with sprocket quality. I sent my original sprocket to Sprocket Specialists and they now have a CNC program for the Sherco X-Rides. I can still ride most trails in 4th gear and when the going gets gnarly I have plenty of gears to mess with. Now-if they only made an e-start!
Thats great about the rear sprocket, wonder if they will post to Aus. Will be contacting to find out.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: motobene on May 15, 2016, 10:00:28 PM
Some feedback on carburetor, jetting, air filter, and air box on the X-Ride from a very experienced technical guy
and rider from the trials world.

X-Ride Carburetor Dell'Orto PHBL 26 BS on a 2016 X-Ride.  The Dell'Orto is a great, simple carburetor.  Very smooth power, easy to work on, and not finicky. The power is not as perky as the other typical trials carburetor, a Keihin PK 28, but the Dell'Orto is less finicky.  The Keihin, BTW, has a bigger bell diameter so it is not a direct
bolt on to the X-Ride.  As an aside, the whole top end, cylinder, piston assembly and head from a 300 Sherco is. 

The engine is actually 272cc, and the bigger top end gives you just under 300cc.  Same personality of power,
just more of it.  On the trials bikes, the 250, '290' and 300 motors are identical in everything except the top
end.

About premix oil, unless your application is high speed and loaded wide open for long stretches, 50:1 is
unnecessarily oily and it will just oil soak the muffler packing faster.  If you use the thick and additive-
sophisticated all-synthetic oils you for sure can use less.  In trials we typically use 80:1.  We don't just
putt around either.  Sometimes we hold the motors wide open.  How lean on oil can you go?  It depends, but for
about 6 months I ran 125:1 with no problems.  If it were my bike I'd just use my trials ratio of 80:1 in the X-Ride.

I found an inaudible exhaust leak at the header pipe.  The compressible ring in the exhaust port counterbore for
the header was unevenly compressed.  The header pipes sometimes don't assemble flat because the angle of
approach of the header isn't perfectly zero.  I always seal this area with silicone 1 clear, under the compressible ring and on the ring and on the header boss. Yours may not be leaking.  This one was.  The fix?

'Crack' the black mung and spoo off with spray carburetor cleaner, the pressure wash.  Remove the compressible ring and clean inside the ring counterbore.  Clean the header pipe mating surfaces well.  Reset the compressible ring in silicone, then build up over it and on also the deader junction.  Grease the area of the two muffler/header O-
rings to help keep the header from nipping the O-rings, then push the header pipe in slowly, with small waggles. 

You'll feel the pipe slip past one o-ring then the next.  Try to aim the header so you won't hit cylinder or frame
with the uncured silicone and mess up a full seal.  Grease the two header pipe screw threads.  Seat and
carefully snug evenly.  Walk away for a few hours to let the silicone fully cure.  Done well all leaks will stop.

About carburetor jetting:

The stock main jet is 126. This is richer than we use in the trials bikes.  In a GasGas 280 with the same
carburetor, for example, I ran 118-110 at low altitude and 110 to 108 at 9,000 to 10,500 feet.  The 126 seemed
OK in the X-Ride I just detailed.  The more oily mix means slightly less rich on fuel, though the difference
between 50 and 80:1 isn't much.

My educated guess for jetting on this bike, given the larger main jet and past experience would be:

118-115 jets for 9,000 -11,000 feet
120-118 for 7,000- 9,000 feet
122-120 for 5,000 to 7,000 feet
124-122 for 3,000 to 5,000 feet
126-124 for 1,000 to 3,000 feet

This assumes the 126 was right to begin with.  Often main jets tend to run large from the factories.  It's their
way of protecting themselves against WFO idiots.

The low-speed jet came as a 33 and the bike was obviously running too lean.  It took a while to warm the bike up to where it would run right, and I had to open up the FUEL SCREW to 4 turns to get it closer to right.  Significantly lean perhaps to satisfy EPA? 

Altitude jetting requires leaning the main jet significantly, but contrary to intuition, it requires an adequately rich (usually richer than stock) low-speed mixture.  The reason is the lower mass flow at low intake velocities.
I had a bunch of 36 jets left over from richening up lean trials bikes with size 38s, our favorite for the
application.  The 36 helped a bunch, and resulted in a fuel screw with the bike running right at 2-3/4 turns
out.  A 38 jet is my preferred size, as it covers both low and high altitude well.  The 36 is OK, however, if that's all you have.

The starter jets are always too lean in Dell'Ortos.  The starter jet is long tall one screwed into the edge of the
float bowl in the carb body that has an o-ring on it.  These are always 60 (0.6mm) in orifice diameter. They
work OK for cold starts in warm weather, but in cold weather and especially if the low-speed jet is too lean,
you get into kick kick kick with no joy.  Trials riders with stock jets sometime will lean their bikes over onto
the ground and jostle the bars to splash some added fuel into the venture for cold starts.

The fix is to remove the jet and drill it out (carefully) with a 1/32" drill.  That makes it an 80.  If you don't have a lathe just be very delicate.  With the richer start jet and cold starts in warm weather, start the bike then immediately flip the choke off.  Then when you hear the motor go lean during warm up, simply pulse the lever up but don't let it lock up.  With the larger low-speed jets warm up is typically two or three pulses over about 20 seconds, and you're good to go.

The jet needle clip position on the D36 needle (typical taper and diameter) is the other common.  This adjustment
just depends on the individual bike.  The X-ride was a little rich coming off bottom to the mid rpms.  Given I fit a larger low-speed jet I knew for sure I'd need to lean the mid mixture a touch by lowering the needle relative to throttle slide position.  The clip came in the 3rd down of 4 slots.  I moved it to 2nd down.  With the above combination the bike started and ran very well and very cleanly.

The nozzle (sometimes called a needle jet) is a 270K.  I've never needed to change a nozzle.  The jet needle slides in and out of the nozzle, metering fuel flow in the mid range of demand via the needle taper position in the fixed diameter orifice.  The slide has an intake-side angle machined off.  The 60-degree angle is standard and typical to all the trials bikes.

Float level is set by the angle of the brass tangs.  It should be level with the float bowl mount surface.  It was.

The filter from the factory was typically under oiled.  If the filter is not soaked and then wrung out with true
foam filter oil like Maxima FFT, your filter is either under oiled or will be when gravity pulls non-filter oil down to bottom of the filter.  It's not good to have a bunch of dirt caked on a dry or under oiled filter element, then have water splash on that and take the fine grit right into the engine.

I showed the owner how to clean and oil a filter:  'Crack' the dirty old filter oil with kerosene or diesel, squeeze out, then wash the filter with hot water and dishwashing liquid until clean.  Let dry.  Put the dry filter in a plastic bag then pour on the oil.  Squeeze the filter hard so the oil goes everywhere and the whole filter is soaked to being evenly wet.  You'll still get oil on your hands!  Reassemble it into the air box taking care to coat the mating surface of the air cleaner with grease. 

The bike should be started without choke.  The evaporants will make it run rich (blubbery) until the evaporants gas off.  That is what makes real filter oils... evaporants that leave and leave behind a very sticky oil.  When you do filters well like this you don't have to clean them near as often, and you know you are keeping grit out of that tight, precious top end and main bearings.

One other thing.  The air filter retainer cover screws suck the big weenie.  The screw are hard to get out and the washers fall off.  Very un ergonomic.  I made some custom screws from M6 X 25 flat head cap screws (or socket
head) and thread Nylock nuts backwards onto the screws to have about 10mm of thread just like the originals, but the longer screws sticking up are so much easier to work.  The nuts on backwards fulfill the role of the former washers.  BTW, to get the Nylock nuts on backwards you have to first train the nylon by screwing them on forward to make thread indents. 

I hope you all find this level of detail from the trials world helpful.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on May 16, 2016, 10:45:25 AM
Motobene, Thanks for posting that important-vital information. We hope to hear more of your thoughts on the X-Ride.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: motobene on May 16, 2016, 08:24:09 PM
Thanks!  I can add more detail later about my X-Ride experience.

BTW, I lost Internet before my final edit this morning, but saved the last edit.  The above redo of the long posting is much better  ;)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Boom Boom on May 17, 2016, 03:56:19 AM
Welcome Bene.
Your years of trials knowledge should be welcomed to the X-ride folks on this forum.
You will find the forum is 99.9999% enduro however once in a while someone asks a question about the trials bikes.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on May 17, 2016, 04:25:09 PM
wow that's alot of info.  The jetting stuff is over my head but interesting to read through it.  Only thing I know is when we backed off the idle screw ~half a turn it started a ton better. 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: motobene on May 22, 2016, 07:59:16 PM
Welcome Bene.
Your years of trials knowledge should be welcomed to the X-ride folks on this forum.
You will find the forum is 99.9999% enduro however once in a while someone asks a question about the trials bikes.

Trials and enduro are separate cultures, but the info I gave has direct bearing regarding a semi-enduro bike with a trials engine. 

I was steered to this ace by the owner of the X-Ride and just felt like sharing.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: MOTO VITA on June 19, 2016, 09:14:48 PM
 Has anyone found stiffer springs, or even identified the stock springs yet? Particularly the rear spring.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: kkim on June 20, 2016, 07:33:39 PM

Trials and enduro are separate cultures, but the info I gave has direct bearing regarding a semi-enduro bike with a trials engine. 

I was steered to this ace by the owner of the X-Ride and just felt like sharing.

Thank you for sharing. Great info.  8)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on June 21, 2016, 10:17:55 AM
What are people running for a spark arrester?  Been looking around and haven't found anything specific for the X-ride yet.  Alot of Spanish Fly units (Lewis Motorsports) but they are either for a different bike or not FS rated, not that I'm sure that it matters.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Boom Boom on June 21, 2016, 01:05:03 PM
What are people running for a spark arrester?  Been looking around and haven't found anything specific for the X-ride yet.  Alot of Spanish Fly units (Lewis Motorsports) but they are either for a different bike or not FS rated, not that I'm sure that it matters.

http://lewisportusa-com.3dcartstores.com/USFS-APPROVED-SPARK-ARRESTOR--GAS-GAS-SHERCO-OSSA_p_954.html (http://lewisportusa-com.3dcartstores.com/USFS-APPROVED-SPARK-ARRESTOR--GAS-GAS-SHERCO-OSSA_p_954.html)

You should be able to make one of these work without much effort. 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: kkim on June 21, 2016, 01:30:29 PM
After a good day of single track took the usual, for me, garage day to go over the Sherco.

Does your kick stat lever make contact with your foot peg at end of stroke? Try this.

It has bugged me that the kick starter lever makes contact with the foot peg at it's end of travel. I found I could move it one notch on the spline and low and behold it stops it's stroke just before contact with the foot peg. It then hits a side case bolt on folding back and up and need a bit of help to fold and comes to rest when folded against the side case. I deepened the notch on the kick start lever some and this makes it fold in easy. The lever is a bit taller to kick but it seems to like the extra travel and starts better, especially when cold.

Art

Art,

This sounded like great idea and was about to do it when I found the kickstarter very difficult to remove once the holding bolt and washer was removed. Did it just slide off the shaft or is there a trick to getting it off? I tried prying gently, but was reluctant to really crank on it in fear of causing harm to the engine case or rubber kickstarter shaft grommet. He's a stubborn fella.

Mahalo
 :)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on June 21, 2016, 02:03:42 PM
The lever was real tight. I sprayed a shot of penetrating oil and wiggled the lever and with prying it came off OK.
Here's a couple photos of where the lever ends up in relation to things, and I did add a bit of tubing to the end so it just makes contact with the foot peg at end of stroke, just to take force off the mechanism inside the lever.

Art
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on June 21, 2016, 02:51:09 PM
Has anyone found stiffer springs, or even identified the stock springs yet? Particularly the rear spring.
Sorry can't help you there. I have not seen any info on the springs. Maybe a spring specialty shop for changing the rear. One of the reasons I bought the bike was I like the suspension as is.

What are people running for a spark arrester?  Been looking around and haven't found anything specific for the X-ride yet.  Alot of Spanish Fly units (Lewis Motorsports) but they are either for a different bike or not FS rated, not that I'm sure that it matters.
This is sic but I purchased the pretty blue bling one from Lewis Motorsports and found an on the shelf piece of copper pipe (the right diameter and length) at a True Value Hardware Store that adapted it perfectly. Besides the pretty blue I figured Ranger Rick could see it from a mile away. It also makes a good grab point for pulling the bike around. I guess I'd rather spend my funds on the X-Ride vs. beer.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: kkim on June 21, 2016, 02:55:00 PM
The lever was real tight. I sprayed a shot of penetrating oil and wiggled the lever and with prying it came off OK.
Here's a couple photos of where the lever ends up in relation to things, and I did add a bit of tubing to the end so it just makes contact with the foot peg at end of stroke, just to take force off the mechanism inside the lever.

Art

Thanks! I'll give it a shot.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Clay on June 22, 2016, 07:43:24 AM
If a few of you guys want to buy springs I will order a stock set an send them to Cannon to see if they can build heavier stuff for the X-Ride. I rode an X-Ride at TKO three years ago and was thinking about doing it again and was playing around with the idea of heavier springs too.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on June 22, 2016, 09:10:06 AM
I was planning on sending mine (and maybe the front forks) into Race Tech.  I need the rear end dropped a bit and wouldn't hurt to have the front dropped as well.  I'm adjusted the rear shock but I can't go further without having zero preload on the spring, so the rate can stay the same, it just needs to be longer. 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: MOTO VITA on June 29, 2016, 06:31:21 AM
If a few of you guys want to buy springs I will order a stock set an send them to Cannon to see if they can build heavier stuff for the X-Ride. I rode an X-Ride at TKO three years ago and was thinking about doing it again and was playing around with the idea of heavier springs too.

 I'm very interested. I suspect the springs are probably available, as Sachs and Marzocchi components are common, it's just a matter of identifying the stock springs. If you can get the stock rate info from your contacts it would be a good start.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on July 10, 2016, 08:53:58 PM
Got a good ride in yesterday.  Love this bike, perfect for my needs.  The 9 tooth front sprocket is nice and tractor like.  I don't need the bike to run any faster then it is now.  And faster and it's looking at racing speed and not enough time to enjoy the surroundings. 

What are the positions on the gas petcock?  I'm used to the Honda's (old 90s) with the lever position forwards is off, normal is down, and rear ward is reserve.  Does the X-ride have a reserve or just a on/off?  And on is straight down, correct. 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: kkim on July 10, 2016, 09:36:47 PM
I love the 9T on mine as well. It made the gap between 4th and 5th usable with out the bike falling on its face during the shift. That 5th gear overdrive is plenty fast for me.

Gas petcock straight up and down is on, lever towards the outside is off and lever to the inside is reserve. Yes, you can get the lever to reserve despite it hitting that cooling hose.

To answer your previous post about lowering the bike, I shaved the seat and now it fits me perfectly. I'm 5'7" with a 28-29 inseam.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on July 10, 2016, 10:17:54 PM
sweet, thanks.  Knew it flowed down or back but wasn't sure of the relationship.

How is the seat shaved?  I sorta hate to change it as I find it really comfortable.  My grom seat sucks and you can't ride it for more then 15 minutes before your butt hurts.  I don't want to screw up this seat. 

I think I need to have some rear shock work done, it's not quite right for someone of 115lbs. 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: kkim on July 10, 2016, 10:39:17 PM
If you are comfortable with the seat, by all means don't change it. I didn't like how it sloped up by the tank that prevented me from sliding up to corner, plus I shaved it down to make it easier to touch the ground. :)

Please let us know if you find someone that will revalve the stock shock and does good work. It could use some help, but is perfectly acceptable as is for me. It would be nice if it had a finer range to the adjustment, though. Wonder if the Ohins they use in the trials bikes would fit?
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on July 22, 2016, 11:19:25 AM
Has anybody shortened the side stand on the X-Ride and if so by how much? Thanks
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: kkim on July 22, 2016, 12:03:30 PM
Has anybody shortened the side stand on the X-Ride and if so by how much? Thanks

Curious as to why you feel the stand is too long? To me, it's the perfect length.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on July 22, 2016, 12:28:09 PM
Has anybody shortened the side stand on the X-Ride and if so by how much? Thanks

Curious as to why you feel the stand is too long? To me, it's the perfect length.

Out in the dirt it is ok, but on concrete my dog has knocked it over in the garage.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on July 22, 2016, 02:03:41 PM
Started to try and shorten it the other night. Was going to unbolt it but removing the center pivot bolt didn't seem to do the trick. Lost interest after that. Might just shorten it on the bike. I'm think 1" off the end.

I've dropped the rear coil almost all the way down and dropped the forks till they touch the stock bars.

It's on the edge of falling over on hard surfaces.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: kkim on July 22, 2016, 02:30:35 PM
Don't know how much you guys are looking to lower it, but I've shaved the seat and seat height is now 33". I'm 5' 6" with a 28-29" inseam.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on July 28, 2016, 06:35:53 AM
Had a weird thing happen the other day... I hadn't ridden the X-ride for 9 months (which sort of sucks). When I went to start it the fuel was turned off, when I turned it on the fuel started pouring out. The fuel line seemed to have shrunk and had come off the nipple on the carb and was too short to put back on. My fuel line is clear (unlike the black one in the picture above) and did not have clamps on either end (doesn't look like there are any clamps are in the picture above either). I nipped to the local Canadian Tire store ad bought a new hose and all is well... just thought it was weird the old one shrunk, might be something to keep an eye on.

I should note I did have to rock the bike back and forth a few times in 5th to unstick the clutch before starting it... learnt that one the hard way before. Bike ran great after that - had little run out a back road and a little rocky trail riding  - All Good !!! :)
 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Boom Boom on July 28, 2016, 08:53:22 AM
Fuel line and filter on my 16 trials bike is utter junk.  Lasted 2 tanks of fuel before I replaced.
No idea why they would install filters with no barbs to hold on and I swear the gas line was more like shrink tube than gas line.
Easy to replace but someone screwed the pooch on that one.
This is a Factory version also, would think things would be a step above standard.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on August 01, 2016, 08:42:44 PM
Another new year model information release and no updates to the X-Ride. 🙁 😭😩 So maybe we should let Sherco know that they have a bike that could be competitive in the X-Trainer market with some updates.    http://www.sherco.com/contact-en.html (http://www.sherco.com/contact-en.html)   

So Sherco send North America a dual sport 450 and an X-Ride with at least bold new graphics. 😊😄
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on August 07, 2016, 02:53:40 PM
With removing the side plastic, I had the retainer fixed in the air box spin in the plastic and had a hard time removing the fastener and side plastic. Finely had to just rip out the whole fastener from the air box plastic.  I was able to repair the air box and felt really glad it was not one of the fasteners in the gas tank.

The advise I would give is put a bit of anti seize on the fastener threads and take care to not over tighten the fasteners that go into the plastic on the gas tank and air box.

Art
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: kkim on August 07, 2016, 03:36:38 PM
With removing the side plastic, I had the retainer fixed in the air box spin in the plastic and had a hard time removing the fastener and side plastic. Finely had to just rip out the whole fastener from the air box plastic.  I was able to repair the air box and felt really glad it was not one of the fasteners in the gas tank.

The advise I would give is put a bit of anti seize on the fastener threads and take care to not over tighten the fasteners that go into the plastic on the gas tank and air box.

Art

I too had this same problem with my right side plastic piece. Luckily it was when I first bought the bike and had removed everything to work on the bike. The distributor agreed it was a factory error and had a new airbox sent. Unfortunately, it was an airbox from the earlier X-ride four stroke version and I had to rework part of it to get it to work with the Sherco engine. Nothing major, but there are differences. I used the problem airbox until recently by not using a bolt in the offending airbox hole. Worked fine.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on August 28, 2016, 08:47:33 PM
anyone know the size of the screws on the exhaust heat shield?  Mine yep coming loose and today I lost both screws and the sheild. 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: kkim on August 28, 2016, 11:37:45 PM
parts manual...
http://www.sherco.com/tl_files/core/pdf/manuels/web_RECANVIS%20XRIDE%202T%202012.pdf (http://www.sherco.com/tl_files/core/pdf/manuels/web_RECANVIS%20XRIDE%202T%202012.pdf)

says it's m4 x6
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on August 30, 2016, 07:00:29 PM
So last week Trials Training Center hosted the TKO Enduro Race and we know Sherco did great placing second. After the competition Graham Jarvis coached two separate Enduro classes, one for A & B riders, and another two days for B & C riders. Well I signed up the two day geezer class and brought my X-Ride. Awesome fun on an awesome trail bike. I think the X-Ride blew away every other bike there. Don't believe me, just call and ask Charlie which bike performed the best and was the easiest to ride at the second Graham Jarvis class.  This relatively new 61 year old noob rider floated through the rock stream sections. Charlie said I owned the stream. Of course I couldn't do all the practice drills as cleanly as the more experienced riders but if they would have jumped on the X-Ride they would have looked like Graham or Charlie. On the afternoon of the second day we had a short but hard rain that soaked the grand finally single track to the falls. It was greasy slick mud all the way up. All the bikes had to fight their way to the top except one, the X-Ride. There was one really slick downed tree that took me three tries to get over but for the rest of the trail I rode unaided to the top of the trail on a single run only. Graham was having to ride, carry, and drag other bikes to the top. Groups of guys had to drag some of the bikes up the hill. Believe me it wasn't me, it was the bike. Charlie said I was cheating being on the X-Ride. This was the first class (also first class with the X-Ride) that I have been to when I felt like I wasn't the worst rider there. It was X-Ride bike that took me up several notches. Guys and a gal who test road the X-Ride said they were wow impressed on how easy it was to trail ride. I have never raced nor have an interest in racing, I just want to be a good trail rider that can hang with the 20-30 year olds on a trail and I have found my bike. The only changes to the stock X-Ride that I have done that might but doubtfully had an affect was the carb work Motobene did, switching to the Dunlop 8 something trials tires at 5 lbs. of pressure, and the rear sprocket change from 38 to 35 teeth. The rear sprocket change is the best mod I have made to bike. I can stay in 1st longer and I am not jumping between 1st and 2nd so much. I am now jumping between 4th and 5th more which is ok because that is not when I am in a hard section. Thanks to whom ever got that sprocket set up at Sprocket Specialist. I should order a spare 35t just encase.

So Thank You Graham Jarvis, Charlie, and the Trials Training Center for a great Enduro class. Please do it again. And Thank You Sherco for making a the best woods, streams, mountains, etc.. trail bike the X-Ride for geezers. "Sherco do not discontinue this bike."  :)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Clay on August 31, 2016, 05:50:10 AM
After the class and on the way home to SD, HP came by my house to test ride a 300 4t. He told me this story and it's got me to thinking about setting up another x_Ride for extreme events. There seems to be more of them popping up. There 's on in NC in October and another one in TX too.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Bob Billyard on September 01, 2016, 06:40:31 AM
Great feedback HP!!!, I'm a fan of the X Ride and I've always felt it just needs exposure. cheers
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: P A Rider on September 05, 2016, 05:20:39 AM
The X ride is my least used bike after reading your post i will be doing some modifications and take it out . Nice write up Harry Potter !
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on September 05, 2016, 07:34:03 AM
I think for any motorcycle the main thing is where you ride. With several nice single track areas close, the X-Ride gets out on a regular once or twice a week ride. The riding partners, one rides a FreeRide and the other rides a GasGas trials. It's interesting to see how each gets through the trails differently. The KTM likes to  attack the rough stuff and the gearing and suspension does a better job at speed than the X-Ride which has so much "grunt" and makes it through stuff with very little wheel spin. The trials has the grunt but suffers with the short wheel base and no seat and takes it's time but gets through bringing up the rear. It makes for a good group but each of us is happy riding these different styles of bikes.

Art
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on October 02, 2016, 06:18:50 PM
any options for exhaust guards?  Mine fell off.  I found a Jitsie carbon guard but ensure if it would fit the Xride, listed for a 01-03 sherco. 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Olenuf on November 05, 2016, 12:16:55 PM
This is a repeat post to the larger and longer thread here about mud flaps that I have applied to the X-Ride. One is attached to the front of the skid plate under the exhaust, and attached simply with zip ties. The next is attached to the frame down tubes just below the radiator, also just zip tied on and the last is attached to the inside bottom of the front fender, and attached with a couple small nylon bolts and nuts. These work for me to keep the mud from getting to the radiator fins.

Art
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on November 13, 2016, 07:10:08 PM
So I changed out my jets based on the advice from page 9 (I think).

Swapped out the main jet (122), low speed jet (38) and dropped the needle clip from the 3 slot to the 2 slot.  I will change out the starter jet next week as it didn't arrive soon enough. 

Everything seemed to go smoothly but when I got the bike out to the trail to go riding I had gas leaking from what appears to be the bowl, constant dripping.  Had to shut the fuel off if we stopped for any amount of time. 

The oring on the bowl looked good and seat fine, anything in particular that would cause the gas leak?


And I decided about 11:30 the night before the ride to make a new exhaust heat shield as the stock one fell off on the trail somewhere.  Turned out alright for a quick fab, need to do a couple more bends on it on an actual brake, round the ends, and remove the vice marks. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ta0PK7Z6K-myBppkvG3ojx0Mbp7oWxm7pQc4dDhWAFxAFmD-kzNOXgDnHBmBcRwauYJlk8xlDaCRlRg3cdZbUGBVD0HwS8FxqXgAmjSSXWkpHWE3xWO25iIMcLbPqqUuC5YgP43h7wLGd4viQbM9Vd2ztFmJ66Qp2IBabWhmAN7CWhtS6iikNnI-i_rRcY6-pyZGezpPYnb-PKZkkmffmDGdgmvOu2TF-npllE7EtXKCepOC0Cef-UBuIMKtzv2MQDeLf31tuvTJqWoEaW1kSZ31hVuYSKL5GM9SVKxtA0ONnzZUVCiKn6bs4Y0RhG2NBnkoNd6hw67Or_5aAVTQmMHfIsbziCZF0VNYRKxGffn_8YeSDvjl6IBMcE-r3usmacDrn303NTke30RqWDpBGBZfzSvNUqhd_3TCVV0B5Rv4FMiSm9Z44aq1lPA_Up4hy_1FRtvAS-ZivbbF51rffMIaFHmLcMSZmoBiugbcqqXfsmr9Fqw5JkwxHBOmj76WU1lJ7zwAsAbG2cWF0NXZaie6dHm78rT796UqaUTXq6-YU0kj4SbW5jVemFs1Eewn0bVt-y38aqY0YwIe3jAZMITRa85d5HNS6EKuOv6OKAHbLpfKJw=w1763-h1304-no)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: bad-mod on November 15, 2016, 10:37:13 AM
nice :)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on March 23, 2017, 07:35:16 PM
Quote from: Stillupright on Today at 12:54:20 PM
Quote from: Weasel on Today at 11:32:39 AM
starting isn't bad after some swapping the plug and doing the jetting changes listed in the other thread. mine is usually 2-3 pumps cold. I'm sub 125lbs. Clutch is awesomely light. 1 finger easy. What kind of adjustment are you looking for on the forks? They have compression speed adjustment on the top as well as on the rear.

The X-Ride spec sheet does not list fork adjustments, so I was simply asking what if any adjustment the suspension had. It's looking to be a great bike for my needs. Thanks for all the feedback

This bike uses the Sherco trials engine so options like installing a S3 head that you can change to a high comp or low comp insert is easy to do.  Opens up the options possible.  Change out the foot pegs for some nice S3 Hardrock alum trials pegs makes standing so much nicer.
They do have a one tooth smaller front sprocket that lets 4th become more of a trail use gear but 1st you will never use again for trail riding.  All depends on the type of riding you want to do.  Part of the not always being friendly to cold start is the choke circut is lean as on the trials bikes that used that same carb.  Some good posted info on here by Motobene on how to proper jet that engine.  For me, I would turn the gas on, lean the bike over till a little gas ran from the overflow then choke on and no throttle and always started by 2nd kick.  These engines need started like a trials bike and that is a full effort kick with piston worked up in the stroke.  DO NOT stab at the kicker as done on most MX / enduro bikes unless you want to blow out the starter gear. One solid effort at a time, not multiple stabs as many do with MX bikes that will not start.   With a proper maintained air filter you can expect an engine that will last for many seasons with no need for a top end. Oh, the stock Mitas trials tires that come on them are rubbish.  Pitch them and put a Dunlop 803 on the back and M-59 up front and just aim the bike at things you would never dream of riding and it has the ability to just let you dog paddle thru the ugliest of trails...or stand up and ride it to full potential.   It is one of the last "stupid simple" bikes you can buy that does not weigh a ton and has a proven power plant.

I thought that was some good information I would add to this thread. 🤔
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on March 24, 2017, 10:57:16 AM
so was the plastic updated in 15/16? Mine is a 14 and the rear fender has cracked and several stickers are coming off. should just remove them all as I'm not a fan of stickers.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on March 24, 2017, 03:30:39 PM
No change in the plastics or stickers. Keeping fresh fenders and stickers does go along ways to keeping up the value of the bike. Probably way faster to order them from Clay than Ross. May be check out the cost and decide from there.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: kkim on March 27, 2017, 10:17:47 PM
My rear brake has gone missing. No amount of pumping the rear brake pedal will generate any pressure to the caliper. Has anyone had problems with theirs? I see there is a rebuild kit for the rear master cylinder. Original fluid in there from 2012. Rear brake worked well until recently after it had been sitting unused for about a year. Suggestions to try before rebuilding the rear MC?
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on March 30, 2017, 09:36:18 AM
checked the fluid level? seems odd that if it was leaking it wouldn't leak fluid at some point. is the caliper working? you can activate them with air to make sure its moving correctly.

I'd try bleeding the system first, although they dont seem like they would be too tough to rebuild. No issues with mine yet.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: kkim on March 30, 2017, 11:17:10 AM
Original fluid in there. Filled to top with no apparent leaks. I pump the rear brake pedal and see no action at the caliper which is why I suspect the rear MC. I'll order up a rebuild kit and do a rear system bleed. thanks
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on April 01, 2017, 02:56:43 PM
are you guys running the 450cc of oil per the manual?  I changed oil today and added that amount but the manual also seems to indicate that the oil should be level with the  fill plug.  It wasn't quite level so I added about 50cc and it was right at the plug.  Can see the gear tooth touching oil now through the fill plug. 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on April 02, 2017, 08:01:23 PM
are you guys running the 450cc of oil per the manual?  I changed oil today and added that amount but the manual also seems to indicate that the oil should be level with the  fill plug.  It wasn't quite level so I added about 50cc and it was right at the plug.  Can see the gear tooth touching oil now through the fill plug.

Hate to say it but Roscos has done all my oil changes but I plan on doing the next one and was going to use the measurer RYP sells.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on April 03, 2017, 05:48:41 AM
I need to do an oil change so am not sure either but just wondering if the 50cc difference could be based on how warm the engine is?
The manual is a little vague as it says use the fill hole to check the level but it doesn't say what the proper level is... I guess I have been spoiled with other bikes that had a window with a high and low mark on it.  ???

Where was the level before you changed the oil? If the bike is relatively new it shouldn't have burnt much oil.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Boom Boom on April 03, 2017, 10:26:17 AM
At 450cc the oil should flow out of the fill hole...
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on April 03, 2017, 11:06:38 AM
unfortunately I didn't check the level before pulling the drain plug. I did lean the bike over at about 45 degrees while draining.

I agree the manual wasn't clear on the level but I read it as Boom stated that it should be level with the fill hole. I thought Roscoe mentioned something about this that was awhile ago.

I am slightly concerned as there is a significant amount of shiney stuff in the oil. I'll try to get a pic tonight.

I do need to find a better measuring cup, I used my oil mix container which has nice mixing lines but the neck collects oil, why they didn't make the walls straight and smooth is beyond me.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on April 12, 2017, 09:41:31 PM
son of a...   I really really like my bike but some days I wonder about the quality of stuff.   

Getting ready to head home for easter (and throwing the bike in the truck) and started up the bike tonight and the clutch wasn't working.  No biggie, probably need to bleed the system.  I was messing with the clutch hose and maybe got some air in the system.  So I'm pumping the handle and getting some bubbles out, after a bit decide to open the bleeder.  So crack it open and getting air and fluid and go to close the bleeder screw and snap.  The quick bleeder snapped right off.  WTH?  I've had hundreds that rounded off but never snap off.   Good thing it's closed..or I hope.  Didn't seem to be leaking fluid but argg...

And on that note what were they thinking when they ran the clutch lines and the rear brake lines.  They are in asinine position.  On the clutch side it's right in the way of the carb screws (which by the way why in the world wouldn't they put the screws on the left side away from the exhaust pipe).   The rear brake line is rubbing on the rear shock, I don't know why they didn't use a full 180 degree fitting.

And then I'm putting my plastic back on and somehow the fitting in the left side of the gas tank strips and the screw is stuck in the tank.  Really?  So then it's and hour of using a half saw to cut off the bolt head, then filing it down with a file, then drill the screw center out while not drilling through the tank.  Get it most of the way drilled out and the insert starts to spin.  Manage to get the insert spun out of the molded area of the tank and finish drilling out the remainder of the bolt.  Retap the insert and then get it shoved into the molded tank.  I need to JB weld the insert back in (or some sort of adhesive) but right now it's good enough to get the plastic one.


While these are minor things some of them are just frustrating. 

So in summary be very careful with the clutch bleeder screw.  And don't cross thread any of the plastic inserts.

I will be replacing the clutch and brake lines with fittings that are routed correctly. 

Oh and the oil was normal for a first change. 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: durtkillon on April 15, 2017, 08:05:52 AM
son of a...   I really really like my bike but some days I wonder about the quality of stuff.   


And then I'm putting my plastic back on and somehow the fitting in the left side of the gas tank strips and the screw is stuck in the tank.  Really? 


The bike definitely has it's quirks.  The clutch issue you described may be sticking clutch plates.  When mine sits for periods of 4 weeks or more, I have to put it in 5th to get it to free up the clutch.  I usually figure it out after I start the bike.  Another method that works for me is taking off in second then shift up to 5th and hold the clutch while giving heavy throttle.  You have to shift a few times off throttle without a clutch.  That works every time. 

I had the nuts that secure the fenders strip at strip inside the airbox.  The flange on the airbox also tore off under normal use.  I had to replace the airbox and cut the old one with a saw to get vice grips on the nut inside the airbox.  It's a cruddy set up.  Be very gentle when tightening those.  I'd rather loose a screw or a plastic fender than do that again. 

The speedo was also junk.  I had to replace it on my first wet ride.  I now use a Trail Tech unit, which is an improvement, but uses a bicycle type magnet for the speedo. 

Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Ridenagain on April 28, 2017, 05:54:12 PM
As I've only had my X ride a week (a "new" 2013 model) I know I will have more to add later. But for now:

I also found the rear brake line rubbing the shock preload adjusters. This was not the case until I dropped the preload significantly (getting it set up for the wife). I was able to loosen the brake fitting and rotate it out of the way without having to bleed the brake.

On advice from this forum, I checked the grommet in the bottom of the air box. Upon my initial inspection it appears to have a drain in the bottom with a rubber fitting similar to what I have seen on Jap bikes that allows water to drain out. Good for allowing water out, but also likely to let some dirty air in (especially when this fitting was rubbing the exhaust as I found it). This wouldn't especially be a problem if the air filter was located on top of the inlet plenum to the carburetor (as is the case on most bikes), but since the air filter is located at the inlet to the air box, any thing that gets past the rubber fitting in the bottom of the air box, goes unfiltered into the carb inlet. I think I will likely plug this hole entirely abandoning the idea of having an air box drain. I will know more when the box is removed.

Also on inspection of the air box I found the inlet plenum cracking away from the air box allowing unfiltered air into the carb. For information, I contacted Clay and he promptly sent me another! I have now inspected the replacement and I don't see where the crack location has been redesigned/strengthened so I will likely reinforce this area with some fiberglass or pvc. I haven't worked out the details. I have another friend that has had the same cracking issue and he wrapped a repair with fiberglass. Ive seen other reports of the same on this forum. In any event, I encourage every x ride owner to inspect the inlet plenum to air box joint from inside the box for cracking.

I hope to make the time this weekend to remove the damaged air box for a more complete assessment and repair.

That all said, my and my wife's initial rides on the bike was really encouraging. Bathroom scale check of the bikes weight says Sherco's reported weight of 203 is the actual weight (if not slightly lighter). Sweet!
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on April 29, 2017, 12:57:29 AM
Rideagain,   Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on April 29, 2017, 09:12:20 PM
I coated the airbox where it cracks with urethane, boat sealant glue. 

I still have to reroute the rear brake line as it's close to the rear adjusters as noted.

I swapped out the stock rear spring for one from Eibach 7", 275lb/in coil.  It's working much better.

Also moved the needle click back to the 3rd slot down (had set it at the second slot) as the engine was running lean and revving up on it's own.

I did install 2 knurled idle and idle jet adjustment screws, but they don't seem that much.  I can't really grab the screws to make any adjustments without burning yourself on the pipe.  Would like to find a adjustment screw with an allen so you use a ball end allen key.  Screwdriver OEM ones worked a bit better but not much.


Also did some rewiring, this is the stock wiring:

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/KGkpHN1qpMfAnriQogRUeCxCs2rLispoYlMa-TXfpR_eOseXZoSy1mzKJW4cZS715RAEwz2XtERAc23cyo9Hh17VCo-Qc2tBzNiAL7OiG1QGqX3juBryAIZF8nm2HJrXM9orn2mgFcuglbzECrrqXhXk-A2mneLArJ2WpTgEr_AXB8txsSqBGm1e08k__QMbr5yCj2v5sDo_swg43vz5GYUR-rkn_Upmn7CRqQ4bMo6GgtyXTYWsaVNyqLP-z4BCmIP3zgkURRe8pJ3ej39-02BTw2J1Wxfv2YWF4sjqGYmwEjQYcDrP6xUlxCtkPpZ_aiRCop2V3fXOZhybL_hXpriTyjxzVv3TN9eq1JEOyZj6rWfxb0DfVA7XaEcItgXkDXJDPwXdgEDngo3WCGVj1k63YW2Dsp8hdTK4oz2SwzOodUTaPNCRdK1LaJqKMprd748A2nLnHXNs7PPekbRNvvF2ipfTj_QKmBHEomymP5WXJx8eh3L_u8gjFE7hYvbUzEDZAzQ0UPRE_oUB96lus2ishFxeq0eRUZUixrKlR4nQET2HKPUQTgNwra1ZbkSJQUPaaitvinFTDBmCxJ5XsV_FkI8XBOYygTabukUhzEDIpMY3b3TV2xBgNg78nYEhQ1CkPdistSmgU1pjqMk1FH7Mf-8g4wrctyzSCjKNj7Y=w1763-h1304-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/wFwOs8CZ9bgTLuuFBYNMHh51tZau8tSU8yBTTeQJwsuysVcpjGfDg2TQ84YbpU4KCCsIEJEMu8RSqdHQVHAsJDlUjxu4yzyRV9QJLC_AUnDNb8-KtEZS59ly-AFcTbdMKU6Mlck5YFfkSJwJcy7VLoAv97zcynh40xCHCxhPvMwKrXc1D0T7ZL0Zl3PG8AJTlsSNz90TIiopEIMaVAQBKZAMPlbiP4aNaFx8UosoM2pkpml7gsG07r-JQvPEwzVKo0-O3LcNYy_EM_RySN4G6OrlvCEjwRTYaQNHvYpDEeBo3Y8gr7eEK90j9EL1zKZAnI8xWuVdWM5fxdGQ8v-CBFsfovCOZwDFeFjfAqCJSB_f13dwNEah5fOiNfiRdw3iDcLGu32_rYEv64uzeY_I3BxRQOo_4nrAG_VR00J0a8cLuijn6y35AZOPwn6D6EZmtJR29memEmhyul7GUMdJkXzY-xFMSg-FXEHM07Tv5s_-C7Nsm7A6X2ryz0fTvWZRIi-r1hvo1QP-o8B0TQVQhQKOJYDWo8J9wxc-2Ps3v00u_B32SYKE83nVFb3RLCiXt3p02aCEeHAFYn9VZfLE3jMrcannOHE_ZbRcCc8iU7S9xP6rOdbhsUhbWdprmmVH1WPCYFxS_jO2tgXdiHwmB5VvJSF4GoFupW7pxSFMwUA=w1970-h1304-no)

Anyways this mess of wires drives me nuts so I redid all of it.

And end result:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ja_kg_8pk3IamiYvoE9yMNvT40zztOzM1m8yTmYsoXbikeYQaP01h1rkhA5IZRCsJxeklOClfJB6x04AwM22q2Tj2A3DJHDN43wog_JZ0DcL8o1IOVAe6S61ADOMtHrVKdrCz_C2L9lt-53qjFHw2VxZWO0sUfDiSp_rKL0BvUdBiLC3l1lxSoWHj3so7rzbnaJD5jOSDPYiBf2sikHCX_Qo2s-cLw1O0xD1UI01UO3n3CKhGdWyzTm3wm6stWdBNGOWBCpdCYIE3mdJYMqtah9ci2-xNS01dbKqr9KXBXBkzNTH-lzZA3yXChWSRrc1EiVotsWA8QKeUJl3817dm4ZAZsni8CRiELZYnj9v9O_Nl-NbtnH3PC4hWBmjKlv0wZDRkZZKCAwIGE9KTnWPZwnSdK5n190ugiXhuKO_HnCxvy8214SkPQ7cpTxb1KuCtw1tlZbqLYfd3-ZRYahchoKugw5OU6ROed6-MZXi-Vyttb0d3Fk6kktB3hvQn4krhWPXXZYgQSIID_tukd3x0uPJdZ6pSEYh5e_2eMMW7oOqeYMIFRtCGojeWXHDbrE4Au1UitOVJiCZwRl10VCN-8ncPMxWAjIekv3xxLV2loY5UYeVpiX3OawTwzRaSUj_NOSyVgFDbRlr-8SGp9rm6IHHAeHZ1aa40-Yt6c5ZQUc=w966-h1304-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/PrHDjiknWoRyBkvoycqqJ20Xrmgm0sT8B4GqymsTnmnMMExp2H0_PSghH-ujT3gaSDn7x0k5clPtWqczXw_AtQThzn1zCVB9cLK2fKa4ssTyH4LFqn815HCW14jsTo4i9kC4SUynZGQickpP0qewJhGGGYZjKLYdBonsJwV4EbY4Af0Q57IlftiFT7nqkRtfLdiiLvsgpnPZlRg7jtcdbIauMee-lieFs0nU2-bLH32YR2hOHtmmbQehIGTsO6bjQRY94yw3T0xJX-GI5b4Rklje_zjfUCOqnXsOYLPqpA37pQ1cIUmE9HjZfFjQUP5wlTm1NfY_7Q_pVTkQ7bbhmq9l03DsnBp3HNERErlulK2uA6RlySKOGfrfsrNuhT2gHTYRXV-2HkZENqoS7ZMbfo5yxSOZbFWCC6OJSaGGiyHJEKstPcjwM-cK4R73ZOmevkDEMrybb3jf7rS5NjTUopus4-viV8X5D912Xn-uIXDJwHzIEGJmbQR1f3PLiyCPZhZtF9DT05OmVIAyNI1EdnPcfu86sd1ycOUvAi0QZ-VlQgM7Tn_ICmPv1Auv1CRpaRTvuS7UEJng9H8UYcaLGYGIf9BONxrj8KeuZ_plSuvBMG3rR3g8luSGqlyEDMz3PbmhM-7BC716W5sZ8BO5_OQ9XhLGBudACehTcinJG7k=w966-h1304-no)

So I did the following:
- removed the turn signals, flashers, the key, dashboard, speedo cable, and horn wires 
- hadn't planned on removing the key but as I discovered the key just cuts the ignition wire and easily bypassed so just removed it 
- relocated the ground locations so moved them to the inside of the bike
- didn't care for all the open connectors they used on the bike so I used Deutsch connectors to replace them
- wasn't impressed with how they connected the power wires so used Deutsch bussed connectors
- glued the fan relay and regulator together and combined the grounds

Pretty happy with it.  Still have to adjust some of the routing. 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Ridenagain on April 30, 2017, 07:19:24 PM
Weasel, your polyurethane air box repair was of interest. Since I didn't know anything about this glue, did some research. Passing this along for info. Might not be compatable with plastic long term? I dunno.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on May 01, 2017, 07:57:03 AM
The stuff I used was Flex 310M Classic from Weicon. I used it to glue the inner bead to the rim on my Crawler so it should be okay with plastic. The other stuff I have is 3M 5200 sealant but I don't think I used it on the air box.

Second option was to print a reinforcement and glue it in the box but the sealant seems to be holding now.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Ridenagain on May 01, 2017, 06:32:23 PM
Sounds good.
"Print a reinforcement", way ahead of my talents!
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Ridenagain on May 04, 2017, 10:19:11 AM
It seems the more work I do on the X-ride, the more, um, "questionable" the craftsmanship becomes in my mind. Final verdict won't be in for a while though.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on May 05, 2017, 07:55:06 AM
the majority of the bike is good. The frame welds are fine, mounted connections seem good, rims sprockets and brakes all seem good. They used alot of decent quality parts on the bike its just some of the execution is off and I tend to be a bit OCD. Exhaust is great, clutch is great, brakes are great.

Like the routing of wiring, routing and end terminations of the hydro lines. When I was doing the wiring the quality of the wires was good and the connectors seem normal for dirtbikes they just were not sealed well enough for me.

The only true gripe I can say they messed up on is the airbox design/material and poor dash computer selection.

Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on May 12, 2017, 12:39:22 PM
How well do Trials Tires work in sand?

Where I live there is no sand to ride in and this winter I am looking to take the X-Ride to the South West where there will be loads of sand. I currently have the Dunlop 803 GP Trials tires on the X-ride and was wondering how they would do in sand?  Of course I realize not all sand is the same and can change drastically with moisture content. I'm just trying to get an opinion on Trials Tires and riding miles of sandy trails. Thanks.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on May 12, 2017, 01:57:41 PM
i rode mine with stock tires at King of the Hammers a few years ago. they did fine, I hate riding in sand and dropping the pressure helped but I still hate sand. But sand I ran into was 1-200 yard here and there. General desert stuff they are fine. Sidewalls might be a issue as I hear they are thinner?
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on May 12, 2017, 04:15:14 PM
i rode mine with stock tires at King of the Hammers a few years ago. they did fine, I hate riding in sand and dropping the pressure helped but I still hate sand. But sand I ran into was 1-200 yard here and there. General desert stuff they are fine. Sidewalls might be a issue as I hear they are thinner?

Thanks for the reply. I think the 1-200 yard stretches is probably what I'll run into. I posted the same question on the Trials blog of advrider and pretty much got take a different bike but I got rid of a Beta 450 to get the X-Ride and she's the ride that fits this putts the best.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on May 12, 2017, 08:32:03 PM
I survived the sand and I'm not much of a rider.  They are not ideal I would guess but with someone that has decent skills I think you'd be fine.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Ridenagain on May 18, 2017, 09:50:49 AM
Where has anyone sourced a replacement air filter for the xride? Thanks for the help.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on May 18, 2017, 09:56:05 AM
I ordered spares direct from Clay.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on September 22, 2017, 07:23:18 PM
It's time to get the X-Ride back on the first page where it belongs.

Here is Gumby's review:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WQDsUYwQ6Qg&ebc=ANyPxKoEaiMjJnZT5sqYQZ5tQdTgnymdIgUdXc7jj8ZLTyuaXZmez5jVLmTiWlpjHATkWtVep53IQc1p3hpwkPEH0HeweUcPbA&time_continue=21
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on September 25, 2017, 03:59:20 AM
Thanks for posting.
I paid insurance and registration on mine this year and never took it out.... VERY SAD !

might have to take it for a rip today
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on December 02, 2017, 06:39:51 PM
little bummed on the Gumpy review.  Nice it's finally out but it was short.  Seems like he always dogs on it not being fast enough but he never gets left behind when riding it and then the next vids he talks about riding slower due to age, etc while on the Beta's.  I didn't get mine out much this year either.  :(

What's people thought on switching to the Lectron carb?   I've messed some with mine but not been super have.  It's really tough to start cold, I did the rejetting based on the advice from the first few pages.  I've also been thinking of double up the head gasket to make it a bit easier to kick over.  I really hate how the screw adjustments on the stock carb are right behind the exhaust pipe. 

Still need to get new coils for the front forks.  Guess I'm going to have to mail them off to one of the tuner companies as I can't find what the stock ones are rated as.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on December 07, 2017, 08:00:01 PM
I'm really not qualified to answer any of your questions but a guy from England living in Canada once told me that Rob Lang at Langsoffroad.com was the best Sherco suspension man in North America.

My X-Ride is not hard to kick start cold nor to even kick but then Motobene (who has posted on this X-Ride forum) did some of his magic to the carb. The X-Ride engine and carb are right out of the trials bikes and the folks at RYPUSA.com are the USA experts on those parts. We did find that the blue bling carb adjustment screws from Jitsie work better than the ones from S3.

Oh ya, I spent a week riding with Gumby up in Quebec this last summer and he is pretty much on the Beta pay roll. I think you'll find his best bike reviews are when he compares the different Beta models.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on December 10, 2017, 07:38:40 PM
I went with the CSP adjustment screws don't recall the reason now.  I think I followed the carb jets posted in this thread.  Did you sent your carb off to him or??  I find it hard to kick as I have short leg and by the time I'm at the bottom 1/4 of the kick I'm pretty much on the seat.  So if I get alot of jam on it I nearly fall off that side.   :o

Yeah I've heard of Rob but didn't think of contacting him.   I will do that, thanks!
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on December 10, 2017, 09:44:01 PM
I took a Trials Training Class at Motobeneís ranch in Oklahoma and took the X-Ride down there along with the 2015 Sherco 300 Trials bike. Really had fun riding down in Oklahoma and a great class as well.

Where you the one wondering some time back on how to remove the seat cover on an X-Ride? I really should post the answer on that.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: kkim on December 10, 2017, 11:54:07 PM
Where you the one wondering some time back on how to remove the seat cover on an X-Ride? I really should post the answer on that.

That was me. :) If you have any info on how to get the seat cover off I would greatly appreciate it.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on December 11, 2017, 07:24:15 PM
Where you the one wondering some time back on how to remove the seat cover on an X-Ride? I really should post the answer on that.

That was me. :) If you have any info on how to get the seat cover off I would greatly appreciate it.

Ok I really wanted to do this right with photos but I donít know how to do it and my helpful daughter is out of town. A 1/4 inch diameter by 1 inch long tree branch sticking out of a dead tree caught my seat and put a very long rip in it. I took the seat to one upholstery shop and the guy had no clue. Then someone suggested Kreunkustom.com on the other end of my home state. He took one look and said instantly he knew how to fix it and did. This is where the picture should be cause my X-Ride now has a beautiful blue seat cover made out of a dirt bike type vinyl.

The black rubber thing is a plug like a test tube stopper with a hole in it. He turned the seat upside down, put a screw driver through the hole and then hammered the handle outward pushing the plug out. I didnít see him do it but thatís what he said he did. He does foam work too if thatís what you need modified.   Again     Kreunkustom.com.  605-381-8065
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: kkim on December 11, 2017, 07:52:23 PM
Where you the one wondering some time back on how to remove the seat cover on an X-Ride? I really should post the answer on that.

That was me. :) If you have any info on how to get the seat cover off I would greatly appreciate it.

Ok I really wanted to do this right with photos but I donít know how to do it and my helpful daughter is out of town. A 1/4 inch diameter by 1 inch long tree branch sticking out of a dead tree caught my seat and put a very long rip in it. I took the seat to one upholstery shop and the guy had no clue. Then someone suggested Kreunkustom.com on the other end of my home state. He took one look and said instantly he knew how to fix it and did. This is where the picture should be cause my X-Ride now has a beautiful blue seat cover made out of a dirt bike type vinyl.

The black rubber thing is a plug like a test tube stopper with a hole in it. He turned the seat upside down, put a screw driver through the hole and then hammered the handle outward pushing the plug out. I didnít see him do it but thatís what he said he did. He does foam work too if thatís what you need modified.   Again     Kreunkustom.com.  605-381-8065

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!  ;D

I will try that and see if it works on my seat. I have multiple rips and holes covered with black duct tape on my seat cover and while it does the trick of sealing the holes, it is quite unsightly, to say the least. I didn't want to force anything to get that plug out, but now that I know how to approach the problem, it should be easy peasy.

Thanks again!  :)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on December 11, 2017, 09:03:15 PM
Where you the one wondering some time back on how to remove the seat cover on an X-Ride? I really should post the answer on that.

That was me. :) If you have any info on how to get the seat cover off I would greatly appreciate it.

Ok I really wanted to do this right with photos but I donít know how to do it and my helpful daughter is out of town. A 1/4 inch diameter by 1 inch long tree branch sticking out of a dead tree caught my seat and put a very long rip in it. I took the seat to one upholstery shop and the guy had no clue. Then someone suggested Kreunkustom.com on the other end of my home state. He took one look and said instantly he knew how to fix it and did. This is where the picture should be cause my X-Ride now has a beautiful blue seat cover made out of a dirt bike type vinyl.

The black rubber thing is a plug like a test tube stopper with a hole in it. He turned the seat upside down, put a screw driver through the hole and then hammered the handle outward pushing the plug out. I didnít see him do it but thatís what he said he did. He does foam work too if thatís what you need modified.   Again     Kreunkustom.com.  605-381-8065

THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!  ;D

I will try that and see if it works on my seat. I have multiple rips and holes covered with black duct tape on my seat cover and while it does the trick of sealing the holes, it is quite unsightly, to say the least. I didn't want to force anything to get that plug out, but now that I know how to approach the problem, it should be easy peasy.

Thanks again!  :)

Here's the picture. Hope it helps!
-From his "helpful" daughter.  ;)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: kkim on December 11, 2017, 11:05:44 PM
Thank you! That looks great. I need to do this to my XR!!!
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on December 13, 2017, 07:23:53 AM
Hey that dude is right down the street from me.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on December 19, 2017, 05:39:10 PM
The updated 2018 KTM FreeRide looks like theyíre going after the Beta Cross Trainer.
https://www.rustsports.com/issues/ (https://www.rustsports.com/issues/)        Itís on page ten of the latest issue of Rust Sports.
I sure wish Sherco had some interest in their own X-Ride.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on December 23, 2017, 10:38:04 AM
The updated 2018 KTM FreeRide looks like theyíre going after the Beta Cross Trainer.
https://www.rustsports.com/issues/ (https://www.rustsports.com/issues/)        Itís on page ten of the latest issue of Rust Sports.
I sure wish Sherco had some interest in their own X-Ride.

interesting, seems like they gave up on the concept and created a more normal bike.  36" seat height isn't that short, I like the 2 stroke engines.  Do like the idea of the electric start. 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Caffeineo on March 20, 2018, 12:03:49 PM
Just got my new 2016 yesterday. The hose clamp to the airbox was loose. Need to check the air box for the hole. Anything else to check before riding? As I am a good 220 pounds.....where can I get some heavier springs?
https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/lmxc4C9w63ZiYduWkvt4of6Ur8ThYHkHEUyCoj6TXRI (https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/lmxc4C9w63ZiYduWkvt4of6Ur8ThYHkHEUyCoj6TXRI)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on March 20, 2018, 03:48:14 PM
Congratulations Caffeineo on your X-Ride. You may not need new springs, just try cranking up the rear shock first. Mine came set up like a trials bike which gives it the incredible traction. The best mod I have made to the bike is the rear sprocket swap which is on one of the pages within this thread. Have fun.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Caffeineo on March 22, 2018, 02:35:10 PM
Congratulations Caffeineo on your X-Ride. You may not need new springs, just try cranking up the rear shock first. Mine came set up like a trials bike which gives it the incredible traction. The best mod I have made to the bike is the rear sprocket swap which is on one of the pages within this thread. Have fun.

Thanks. The best improvement on my trials riding that I can buy has been heavier springs to more match my girth. LOL I'll try cranking up the preload and compression settings. The manual shows a switch in front of the gas cap for wet/dry ignition maps but my bike does not have it. A quick look at the bike and I do not see one. Could it be only Euro models have that switch or???? Of course it has been raining and no chance to ride it yet but tomorrow looks promising. This will be my single track bike for all the trails we have in Idaho.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Ridenagain on March 22, 2018, 05:48:01 PM
Passing on a couple of things.

I put on a low compression head (S3). It took the struggle out of my wife kicking it thru. I'm sure it cost some low end pull, but it's got plenty anyhow.

Showed up at an observed trial to ride the enduro class (on the Xride). Calling it a cheater bike for this class is an understatement.😜
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on March 23, 2018, 04:52:59 AM
Passing on a couple of things.

I put on a low compression head (S3). It took the struggle out of my wife kicking it thru. I'm sure it cost some low end pull, but it's got plenty anyhow.

Showed up at an observed trial to ride the enduro class (on the Xride). Calling it a cheater bike for this class is an understatement.😜

Like 😊
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on April 24, 2018, 07:46:55 PM
The manual shows a switch in front of the gas cap for wet/dry ignition maps but my bike does not have it. A quick look at the bike and I do not see one. Could it be only Euro models have that switch or???? Of course it has been raining and no chance to ride it yet but tomorrow looks promising. This will be my single track bike for all the trails we have in Idaho.

believe that is the enduro models only.  No switch that I know of the X-ride's.  Got tired of trying to start mine and dropped it off at Roscoe's (starter of this thread) to run through it.  Somehow I ended up with a tank that had about 1/2 quart of water in it?!   :o  So the carb was really corroded up.  Only thing I can figure is I left the gas can in the back of the truck and rain got in it.  Got it all cleaned up and funny thing is they said it starts quite a bit easier, go figure.  They are also going to try and cut down the plastic spacers on the fork spring to soften up the front a bit.  Should get it back in the next week or so. 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on April 27, 2018, 08:50:58 PM
picked up my bike today, runs good.  Seems to start and kick over very well.  I like the mods on the front end, looks like they cut about 1/2" off the spacers. 

Also found a leak in the clutch and replaced the cover and piston, seems air was getting pulled through.

Also found the front axle was bent?  Unsure how that happened. 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on April 30, 2018, 07:58:11 PM
picked up my bike today, runs good.  Seems to start and kick over very well.  I like the mods on the front end, looks like they cut about 1/2" off the spacers. 

Also found a leak in the clutch and replaced the cover and piston, seems air was getting pulled through.

Also found the front axle was bent?  Unsure how that happened.

Cut the spacers to soften up or lower the bike? I swear gremlins get into our bikes when we least suspect it. You going to the Dakota Dual Sport spring ride? I was planning on it then discovered this event and signed up for it instead:
http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/2018-running-of-the-dinosaur.1277132/ (http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/2018-running-of-the-dinosaur.1277132/)
Looked like to much free fun to pass.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on May 01, 2018, 09:50:55 AM
I would like to check that out but I have been banned from ADV rider for posting an old picture of John Penton getting his bike washed - ADVRider considered it to break their "pornography rule" in fear of getting banned here I won't post the pic but feel free to google "John Penton bike wash" and judge for yourself... personally I would have no problem getting my X-ride treated that way. - 12 years of posting on forums first time I have ever been banned -  I know it is off topic but hopefully my fellow X-Ride owners don't mind a little venting. 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Clay on May 01, 2018, 10:46:21 AM
I would like to check that out but I have been banned from ADV rider for posting an old picture of John Penton getting his bike washed - ADVRider considered it to break their "pornography rule" in fear of getting banned here I won't post the pic but feel free to google "John Penton bike wash" and judge for yourself... personally I would have no problem getting my X-ride treated that way. - 12 years of posting on forums first time I have ever been banned -  I know it is off topic but hopefully my fellow X-Ride owners don't mind a little venting.
I don't think that's a bike wash. I think that's the enduro in IN or IL at the nudist club. I believe they're writing on score cards. Sure would hurt to get a naked body part caught on a cable, grip or lever huh? By the way I've been banned twice form the GG forum so join the club! It ain't so bad!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on May 06, 2018, 10:30:12 PM

Cut the spacers to soften up or lower the bike? I swear gremlins get into our bikes when we least suspect it. You going to the Dakota Dual Sport spring ride? I was planning on it then discovered this event and signed up for it instead:
http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/2018-running-of-the-dinosaur.1277132/ (http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/2018-running-of-the-dinosaur.1277132/)
Looked like to much free fun to pass.

I was wanting it a bit lower but I think it softened it up instead.  I like it.  Bike runs amazingly well now.  Zero issues getting it to start, cold it is 2-3 kicks.  Hot is 1 kick.

I'm probably not going to make any of the events, we have baja races in the next couple weeks and in June. 

I was practicing riding som side hills this weekend and think I'm going to try shaving the seat down some.  Seems like it will help me shift my weight around a bit better. 

Couple more little things I have to fix, need new grips as the driver's is splitting.   Anyone tried the S3 Trifix aluminum grips?  They don't have the ends on them and seem like they would works with my bark busters. 

Also looking at adding a left hand rear brake lever, Clake SLR I think. 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on May 14, 2018, 01:29:42 PM
Was out for a bit of a ride Saturday while clearing some trials section for next weekend... man it sure is fun to ride an X-Ride - I really should do it more often

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Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on May 25, 2018, 09:21:25 AM
Grips dry rotted and were splitting, installed the S3 TriFlex Aluminized grips. Like that they have the end open for bark busters. Install was pretty straightforward and quality seems good.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Shercomagoo on May 26, 2018, 11:15:27 AM
Is anyone running enduro tyres on their x-ride, if so, what size are people fitting?


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Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on June 01, 2018, 04:26:49 AM
Nope... but I used to run trials tires on my enduro bike  ;)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Caffeineo on August 06, 2018, 10:50:59 AM
I was going to ride a single track that I had not completed in 2 other rides. But......the bike started to run like it may have been fowling a plug. Then the slide got stuck???? Engine running at fixed high RPM's. Not WFO but far from idle. Checked the throttle cable at both ends and it was not binding or stuck. Lots of free play. The throttle would snap shut but had quite a bit of free play. So I had to turn around making it 0 for 3 on that trail.  >:( Tapped the float bowl back at the truck but no change. Turned the bike off and started up a few times only to have it stuck on a high idle. The next day the bike will not start. Not even a hint of a start. Only 86Km. Any ideas before I just start taking apart the carb? I rode the bike in the driveway the day before and it ran fine.

The unfinished trail.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Shercomagoo on August 06, 2018, 08:45:22 PM
I was going to ride a single track that I had not completed in 2 other rides. But......the bike started to run like it may have been fowling a plug. Then the slide got stuck???? Engine running at fixed high RPM's. Not WFO but far from idle. Checked the throttle cable at both ends and it was not binding or stuck. Lots of free play. The throttle would snap shut but had quite a bit of free play. So I had to turn around making it 0 for 3 on that trail.  >:( Tapped the float bowl back at the truck but no change. Turned the bike off and started up a few times only to have it stuck on a high idle. The next day the bike will not start. Not even a hint of a start. Only 86Km. Any ideas before I just start taking apart the carb? I rode the bike in the driveway the day before and it ran fine.

The unfinished trail.

Very strange, when you say only 86km, is that from new? Iíve had my xride a couple of months now but had to get the airbox exchanged due to a crack at the base. Unless dust has got in and fowled the slide???? Good luck with repairs


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Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Caffeineo on August 07, 2018, 08:28:17 AM
Yes a total of 86Km. I bought a 2016 new in March this year. Then got a new house and the move took a lot of potential riding time. Only had about 5-6Km when I got it. Never had any problems.......until this. One of the carb boot clamps was a bit loose (as mentioned here before) so I tightened it up and checked other bolts for tightness. Also put some heat reflecting tape on the carb boot where it is close to the exhaust pipe.
 
I checked the slide and it is moving fine. Loosened the float drain bolt and ran some gas through. Looked at the spark plug and it looks good. Making a spark. Not starting at all. Checked the plug and it is bone dry????? Now I really do not want to take off the carb so I put a rubber handled hammer against the float bowl and a massager against the other end. Thinking something is stuck and the vibrations can unstick it. LOL. Well now if fires right up but goes back to about 50% RPM's. Not even close to idle. Not sure what I would look for if I took the carb apart. Float bowl height???? Make sure all passages are open???? Just do not know or understand how something other than the slid could keep the bike from idleing...
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on August 07, 2018, 10:40:26 AM
Triple check the air box. And speck of dust/dirt could easily clog up part of a jet, etc. Carb isn't too hard to remove and clean.

Mine has been running good since last work done. I had some issues with it sticking at high revs but mine was water in the gas and corroded everything inside the carb.

Cold starting took a bit the other night but most cause its hard to get a good kick with short legs.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Caffeineo on August 08, 2018, 07:10:56 AM
Triple check the air box. And speck of dust/dirt could easily clog up part of a jet, etc. Carb isn't too hard to remove and clean.

Mine has been running good since last work done. I had some issues with it sticking at high revs but mine was water in the gas and corroded everything inside the carb.

Cold starting took a bit the other night but most cause its hard to get a good kick with short legs.

I checked the carb boot clamps before my first ride. Using the same gas as my trials bike and that runs great so I am expecting the gas to be good. Dang, water in the gas and corrosion in the carb.  :o Mine starts right up no problem. Just does not like to idle. Maybe get some Pine-Sol and soak it.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Shercomagoo on August 11, 2018, 03:08:52 AM
Anyone carry spare fuel on their xride? Either in bladders camping fuel cans? If so how and where do yous fit them?


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Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: P A Rider on August 11, 2018, 03:27:35 AM
For anyone interested in an X Ride with the mods listed in this thread I am getting rid of mine . I am located in Pa and am getting rid of a few of my bikes including this one .
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on August 12, 2018, 12:11:08 PM
Anyone carry spare fuel on their xride? Either in bladders camping fuel cans? If so how and where do yous fit them?

I have a flat fuel bladder that I carry inside of my Camel Back and poor the premixed fuel into the tank as soon as it gets lower in the tank. The Wolfman Luggage fuel cell holder also works on the rear fender. I also carry on the bike several of the very small plastic oil bottles that are used to add oil to mix a gallon of gas for a chain saw. I clean them out, removed the old label, and fill with a measured amount of my favorite Two Stroke Oil to make a gallon of X-Ride mix. So if I hit a gas station I can put in a gallon of premium and just add one of my little premeasured bottles.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on August 13, 2018, 01:39:38 PM
For anyone interested in an X Ride with the mods listed in this thread I am getting rid of mine . I am located in Pa and am getting rid of a few of my bikes including this one .

Maybe if you were closer. Like to have another for a loaner.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Clay on August 13, 2018, 05:38:04 PM
I can help you ship it. Probably cost about $300.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on August 15, 2018, 06:59:22 AM
Dang that is tempting.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Shercomagoo on September 09, 2018, 04:40:24 PM
Does anybody have a jetting chart for the Klein carb that is fitted to the 290xride? I'm running jetting shown below but wondered how this compares to factory settings.

125 pilot
42 main
JJH needle
Clip on 4th notch from top
Air screw 3/4 turn out from stop.

Running elevation from sea level to 2000ft maximum.

Does this sound right?

Thanks for the help

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Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Shercomagoo on September 09, 2018, 04:46:04 PM
Anyone carry spare fuel on their xride? Either in bladders camping fuel cans? If so how and where do yous fit them?

I have a flat fuel bladder that I carry inside of my Camel Back and poor the premixed fuel into the tank as soon as it gets lower in the tank. The Wolfman Luggage fuel cell holder also works on the rear fender. I also carry on the bike several of the very small plastic oil bottles that are used to add oil to mix a gallon of gas for a chain saw. I clean them out, removed the old label, and fill with a measured amount of my favorite Two Stroke Oil to make a gallon of X-Ride mix. So if I hit a gas station I can put in a gallon of premium and just add one of my little premeasured bottles.
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I went for the acerbis 3litre tank that clamps to the forks where the headlight would be. Seems to work well. Connects to breather pipe on original tank and the the bike syphons fuel from reserve tank.

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Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Caffeineo on September 16, 2018, 05:54:53 PM
Very strange, when you say only 86km, is that from new? Iíve had my xride a couple of months now but had to get the airbox exchanged due to a crack at the base. Unless dust has got in and fowled the slide???? Good luck with repairs


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That was it. Clay was great with getting me a new airbox. Cleaned the carb and got the slide moving good. Starts and runs great now.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Caffeineo on September 16, 2018, 06:04:05 PM
Took it out for a test ride. I found it works like my trials bike on real technical sections. Standing up and trails techniques. Great fun. Really light and not concerned about turning around on single track like I am with my 500.
https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/5BsJXDi7x1E4uSW7UGeqAH1pcuLWqvINbR3Y2H05Lkl (https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/5BsJXDi7x1E4uSW7UGeqAH1pcuLWqvINbR3Y2H05Lkl)
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Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on September 17, 2018, 12:07:45 PM
Does anybody have a jetting chart for the Klein carb that is fitted to the 290xride? I'm running jetting shown below but wondered how this compares to factory settings.

125 pilot
42 main
JJH needle
Clip on 4th notch from top
Air screw 3/4 turn out from stop.

Running elevation from sea level to 2000ft maximum.

Does this sound right?

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I didn't know they ever came with a Klein carb?
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on January 20, 2019, 03:49:27 PM
Re: sherco x-ride front fork service
ę Reply #4 on: January 03, 2019, 09:50:23 AM Ľ
Quote
They do have owners manuals that aren't great but are of some help.
http://www.sherco.com/tl_files/core/pdf/manuels/FR-EN-ES_SHERCO_XRIDE_125-290.pdf (http://www.sherco.com/tl_files/core/pdf/manuels/FR-EN-ES_SHERCO_XRIDE_125-290.pdf)

And if you look at the specs you can see it is a 40mm Marzocchi Fork

If you google you can find info on the 40mm Marzocchi Fork such as this youtube video on rebuilding one:
https://youtu.be/zK_wIBKgqpM (https://youtu.be/zK_wIBKgqpM)

Hope that helps... I haven't touched my forks so be sure to share how it goes :).

Useful information so I added it here.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on January 20, 2019, 08:24:04 PM
Thanks! I think I'd like to pick up another on but haven't really found any used.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on July 08, 2019, 06:31:26 PM
Installed an Kenda Ibex on the front after the stock tire start to split on the sidewall.  Nice sticky tire. 

So the clutch is awful grabby right when starting cold.  Is that normal?  Like has to be in neutral or 5th otherwise it will take of on you even with the clutch in.  After warmed up it seems fine.  But it you start it in 2nd or 1st even with the clutch in it will take off on you.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Torbs on July 08, 2019, 07:18:06 PM
Itís a trials based motor...what trans oil do you run? I used to run Maxima MTL 75wt.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Caffeineo on July 09, 2019, 06:50:18 AM
Installed an Kenda Ibex on the front after the stock tire start to split on the sidewall.  Nice sticky tire. 

So the clutch is awful grabby right when starting cold.  Is that normal?  Like has to be in neutral or 5th otherwise it will take of on you even with the clutch in.  After warmed up it seems fine.  But it you start it in 2nd or 1st even with the clutch in it will take off on you.

Mine had the clutch stick when it was first started if it had sat for a few weeks. Common problem with the trials engines. Change the oil frequently (every other ride) as it is such a small amount.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on July 09, 2019, 10:17:06 AM
Oh really change oil that often? I was doing it once a season.

Redline 80wt with shock proof. Made for 2 strokes.

If it's normal I won't worry about it much then.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Caffeineo on July 09, 2019, 05:21:15 PM
I change the oil on my 13 Beta Evo 300 after every 4-5 rides. It takes 500cc so I get 2 changes out of a bottle. That is trials type riding so only about 3 hours a ride and maybe 4-5 miles..... I should take my GPS and see if it can see what kind of miles I average on a ride.  The XRide takes less than that.....375cc I think.....but it is such a small volume I think they should be changed often and I only use full synthetic 2 stroke, wet clutch oil.......not trying to start an oil thread. ;)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on July 12, 2019, 05:46:39 AM
Yep, Always best to check before you start the bike if the clutch is stuck toss it in 4th gear and rock it back and forth with the clutch pulled in and it should loosen up. Or ride it once a week (says the guy with only 500 km on his 5 yr old X-ride - too many toys not enough time) 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Clay on July 12, 2019, 06:22:52 AM
You can also start it and then get it rolling, punch it in gear, pull in the clutch and stomp the rear brake. That will free up the clutch plates too.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on July 15, 2019, 07:57:19 PM
I don't take it sitting down when somebody on ADVRider- Trials bikes- E Start TRS slams my favorite bike.  Here's my reply:

" I have ridden an X-Ride. Neat bike. However, it is neither a trials bike nor an off-road bike of full capability. It is a cumbersome trials bike or a not-so-capable off-road bike. I believe this compromise is why they don't sell well." Motobene

Well I surely would not agree with that assessment of the X-Ride. Sherco never called it a Trials bike and should it not be considered as one. Sherco built it as a trail bike with some Trials bike like characteristics to make it easier to ride on very hard single and two track trails. Now the term "trail" has different meaning to different riders. For some trail riding is a Testosterone competition and for others it's about exploring and enjoying Mother Nature. As such the X-Ride works for both. When I took the Graham Jarvis class on my X-Ride at Trials Training Center, Charley said I owned the rock garden and none of young bucks on 300 two stroke enduros road it better. Also when we did the hard trail to the waterfall, in a full on rain, I didn't need any help to get to the top whereas Graham had to haul over half of the other bikes to the top for which he was pretty pissed. Was it my skills that made me very proud over those two days, no it was the X-Ride which is like a cheater bike for geezers.

Motobene you also said "nor an off-road bike of full capability"and "not so capable off-road bike" that's pure banded cow shit. Here's how I first discovered there even was such a thing as an X-Ride. I was at an indoor hard enduro competition and a Sherco dealer won it riding an X-Ride. I later visited the dealer and asked what bike he was riding at the hard enduro and pointed to the X-Ride. After test riding the Beta Cross Trainer and X-Ride side by side,I traded off my problem child 2011 Beta 450rr. Now I doubt if the X-Ride is built to handle a full season of every weekend competitions but for some of us trail riders it will last a life time. I have let dirt riders from West Virginia to Nevada demo ride my X-Ride and the most common response is "Holly Shit that's a really fun bike to ride," and "if it had an e-start they'd sell a boat load."

"I believe this compromise is why they don't sell well." How can a bike sell well when the manufacture does nothing to sell it. Sherco never promoted this now discontinued bike. Scorpa did when it was a Scorpa T-Ride.The only Sherco dealers who ever ordered one, were those who had ridden hard the bike itself. My guess is that when Sherco took over Scorpa they did one manufacturing run of the bike. In the maybe eight years it was sold, it never even got bold new graphics.

Range wise I have done one 70 mile ride on the bike which was about the same as the stock tank on my old Beta 450rr. I've done full day single track rides on the bike and I was far from being the most tired at the end of the day. For me it's a geezer cheater bike that will allow me to ride hard trails with the young bucks.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Clay on July 16, 2019, 06:24:59 AM
Holly shit? LOL!!!!
I think they didn't sell well because they didn't have the magic button.
And Sherco didn't do a good job of promoting the bike.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on July 16, 2019, 03:39:50 PM
Holly shit? LOL!!!!
I think they didn't sell well because they didn't have the magic button.
And Sherco didn't do a good job of promoting the bike.

my thoughts as well. 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Shercomagoo on August 21, 2019, 11:02:17 PM
Jetting chart..........dies sherco do one for the xride?

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Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on August 22, 2019, 08:19:51 PM
there is one somewhere in the first pages of this thread.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on January 07, 2020, 06:22:00 PM
The question has been raised does Sherco still make the X-Ride? Maybe a more real question is did Sherco ever do more than one build run of the X-Ride as it never even got bold new graphics? Unlike other European bikes that get yearly updates the X-Ride has had none.  As to here in the USA you cannot even special order one anymore but parts are still readily available. I've only seen one used one for sale and it didn't have a clear title. As to my X-Ride, it for sure is my one bike I'll never part with.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on January 07, 2020, 06:29:25 PM
As to the question, "Is the X-Ride easy to kick start?" Yes just like a 250 2stroke Trials bike. Most trials riders don't even think about kick stariting bike over an over again. Now my old Gas Gas 321 took a jump to aid in starting but not the X-Ride. If you want to lower the compression, S3 makes the parts.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on January 22, 2020, 03:19:48 PM
The xride was difficult to kick start for awhile for me. Short legs, but once I figured out the process I don't find it so bad. It's not a kick ki k kick like I was used to. More get the stroke to the top and one good kick with the choke on. Usually does the trick. Once got its no issue to restart.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on January 28, 2020, 08:44:03 AM
Hey I thought this forum was gone... glad to see it back :).
Somebody is interested in my X-Ride but I'm a bit torn if I should sell it as there isn't anything else like it... but with less than 600 km on it in 5 years I am obviously not worthy of keeping it (just always go to the trials bike when I have time to ride)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on February 01, 2020, 02:32:13 AM
Ended up deciding to keep it - Really have to make more time for riding it this year (once things warm up a bit)!
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Shercomagoo on March 05, 2020, 02:32:25 PM
Speedo on my xride has died, has anyone replaced theirs with an aftermarket option?

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Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: kkim on March 05, 2020, 02:59:24 PM
I replaced mine with a Trail Tech Endurance 2. Works fine, though I can't remember which sender of theirs I used. Contact tech support at Trail Tech and they can help you find the correct unit.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Shercomagoo on March 05, 2020, 09:46:35 PM
I replaced mine with a Trail Tech Endurance 2. Works fine, though I can't remember which sender of theirs I used. Contact tech support at Trail Tech and they can help you find the correct unit.
Cheers Kkim

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Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: shadude on April 29, 2020, 12:43:27 PM
Recently got a 2nd hand x-ride.  Not been able to ride it due to the lockdown.
Does anyone have a wiring diagram for the x-ride?  Previous owner has made a wiring few mods that I'd like to tidy up.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: shadude on May 03, 2020, 11:10:41 AM
Found this on trials central if anyone else is looking.  Traced/belled a few wires out.  This looks to be how the x-ride is wired.  Some of the wire colours are different though.  Might be useful for others.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Xride on October 26, 2020, 04:48:26 PM
Just bought brand new 2021 xride 290....(2018 leftover from France, import in Canada as 2021 from Sherco Canada) this bike is so easy to ride, i have smile all the time...I came from 2005 kdx 220 gear for going slow as possible....but not enough for my taste. I try ktm freeride 250R, beta xtrainer, but what chance I have to get this bike before gone. My bike came with keihin 28mm, 9 T front sprocket. I read all this post twice before making my choice, thanks all for this nice tread...REALLY good info.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on November 18, 2020, 07:09:09 AM
Congrats on the new bike !!!
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on November 22, 2020, 12:09:30 PM
Just bought brand new 2021 xride 290....(2018 leftover from France, import in Canada as 2021 from Sherco Canada) this bike is so easy to ride, i have smile all the time...I came from 2005 kdx 220 gear for going slow as possible....but not enough for my taste. I try ktm freeride 250R, beta xtrainer, but what chance I have to get this bike before gone. My bike came with keihin 28mm, 9 T front sprocket. I read all this post twice before making my choice, thanks all for this nice tread...REALLY good info.

Congratulations on the X-Ride, here is mine:
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on November 22, 2020, 10:13:15 PM
Funny this gets bumped back up.  Where can I get cylinder gaskets here in the US?

Got a really wired noise starting tonight after riding for about 20 minutes.  Just idling at the base of a climb and got a bad knocking, like a rock in the skid plate.  Shut it off and started back up and still making a racket.  It's louder when the cutch is in and when you release and load the engine it gets let noisy but still slightly there. 

Got back to the shop and buddies swore it sounded like the bottom end went so pulled the head and nothing seem super loose and all pretty normal.

Did have a wired issue with the clutch not really working and we bleed the master and still wasn't working earlier in the day.  Laid it over on it's side and decided to pull the slave cylinder cover, I cracked the upper bolt and there was a slight pop and the clutch started working again.   Not idea if they are related or not.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Michael on November 27, 2020, 07:03:07 AM
not exactly sure which gasket you need but use this:
https://www.sherco.com/wp-content/uploads/web_RECANVIS-XRIDE-2T-125-290-2014ok.pdf (https://www.sherco.com/wp-content/uploads/web_RECANVIS-XRIDE-2T-125-290-2014ok.pdf)

and see if they have it here:
https://shercodiscountparts.com/products/center-case-gasket-250-290-300-tr11-3134?_pos=23&_sid=576cf6fac&_ss=r (https://shercodiscountparts.com/products/center-case-gasket-250-290-300-tr11-3134?_pos=23&_sid=576cf6fac&_ss=r)
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on December 24, 2020, 10:32:37 PM
Thanks, got the case apart and found this on the clutch side.  washer broke? We found about 1/4 of it.  It broke/rolled 3 teeth on the main pinion gear and 1 tooth on the clutch basket.  Could not find any other issues.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on January 02, 2021, 08:23:55 PM
Well apparently the stop that is cast into the case for the kickstarter was breaking apart and the gears stayed lock, wouldn't disengage.  So the clacking noise was the engine gear spinning by the kickstarter gear that was wedged in place.

Parts I ordered from a CO Springs dealer and then decided to order the same parts from Splat.  Spalt was half the price and showed up a week quicker, from the UK.  Good job Sherco USA.

So milled out the busted stop, tapped for a 5/16 bolt and should be ready for new parts to show up.  Bolt has good engagement and should be a nice positive stop for the kickstart gear.

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Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on January 02, 2021, 08:25:28 PM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pw/ACtC-3c8ViSs-qZskOY-F9YNoxjQBtI_0JyuwePZQEVtGJ7aETgq8EIl_3cXyTMJJ_uPnoZ4SJH21vykhdou_D72wxjrcRKqOraBuOJECWNnzb8U1SJu1R2pvWtHX3Fld7uMdS-_9v_uIjMvtKQ5BDv0B3DSpQ=w2103-h1577-no?authuser=0)

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better then new, sorta. 
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Weasel on January 02, 2021, 08:27:53 PM
and while I was in there, I opened up the tiny oil drain hole to maybe speed up the oil change process a bit.  Not sure why they didn't just do that to start with, would have taken 5 seconds extra.  Almost doubled the hole size.

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Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Harry Potter on January 17, 2021, 06:53:34 PM
Nice write up and photo documentation Weasel. This thread started by Rosco is the best source of information on the X-Ride anywhere. If the TRS X-Track can get E-Start why didnít Sherco put on their thinking cap for the X-Ride?  With the new Texas importer a lot of Trials Riders are switching to TRS.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Kikemariana on February 12, 2021, 09:27:05 AM
Reviving this forum. I have a Scorpa T Ride, which is essentially the X Ride with a Yamaha WRF 250 4 stroke engine tuned for more torque. When Scorpa was acquired by Sherco, they plugged their 280 2 stroke into the chassis and created the X ride. I was trying to find an X ride fork triple clamps, as mine are from the first model (2008) with one bolt upper clamp and two bolts lower clamp, whereas my understanding, looking at the spare parts book, is that the X ride has a two bolts upper clamp and a three bolts lower clamp, more rigid. I have looked at spare parts shop in the internet, to no avail. Would anyone happen to know where can I find one?. I would be happy with a second hand unit, if someone has changed the forks, or even with only the upper clamp, which is the flimsier one. Forks are the same (39 mm Marzocchi), so it should be a straightforward transplant
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: Read Valve on March 01, 2021, 12:50:07 PM
Hope this isn't considered off-topic:  Is there a "Buy/Sell" or "Marketplace" section on this forum?  I'm in the market for a 290 X-Ride, and live in NYS.  Thanks!
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: kkim on April 12, 2021, 02:09:01 PM
2012 X-Ride. Does anyone know where to get a rear master cylinder for this bike? Part #, if you have one, would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: 290 X-Ride
Post by: ejfranz on April 19, 2021, 07:37:49 PM
Bought a 2020 Scorpa T-Ride in December and have been looking for a group to discuss upgrades and mods.
I have put 700 km on it so far, 2/3 of that has been hard single track.

I have added a spring return to the rear brake pedal as I have already gone through a set of pads.
At 500 km I found the trials tire were no longer providing the traction I needed. I used a tread doctor to re-shape and sipe the knobs and got another 150 km, but found I wanted more traction.
Also at 500 km I put on an O-ring chain.
I have a Shinko Cheater MX216 on the front (2 rides) and a Motoz Gummy mountain hybrid on the rear (1 ride).
I have also gone with the tubeliss system front and rear. I started with a rim lock on the front, but wanted to run 3-5 psi and was having issues with tire slipping on the rim.

Loving the bike, but not thrilled with the rear brake assembly. I have already bent the pedal twice.

What mods have people done?

I rarely use 1st gear so has anyone put a larger sprocket on the front? (looks like there is not a lot of room)