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Other WP forks on 17 Shercos
« on: November 25, 2016, 01:32:54 AM »
Eyeing a 17 300 SEF-R factory when they are announced. But also thinking of getting a racing and fitting AER 48 OB forks or going nuts and getting 52mm (OB clamps) or 48mm cone valves.

Anyone got advice on fitting OB WP forks on 17 Shercos?

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Re: Other WP forks on 17 Shercos
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2016, 02:10:44 AM »
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Re: Other WP forks on 17 Shercos
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2016, 05:13:18 AM »
We have been looking at alternatives for our new 17s:

Marzocchi CC 48mm: It's almost bolt and ride, except you have to make your own wheel bushings as they come fro the OB (bigger axle). Really plush and a lot of enduro riders use it here. About $2.000.

Ohlins TTX 1784: The FGSH model is specifically made for Sherco so it's plug and play. About $1.300 for the forks. You can even buy the inner parts and keep your tubes for half that money, but Ive seen how much importance stiction has on fork action, and all top of the line forks have friction treatments.

WP Cone Valve: the most expensive, but in the hands of a good tunner can have the best results.$3.500

While looking at these alternatives I received my 300 SEF-R and the OC forks work exceptionally well by just changing springs and moving the clickers. Comparable to my fully Race-Tech modded OC forks. Took about 2 hours to break them in and will give them a chance for a few months.

Be sure to check user reviews, as some forks are more oriented to racing and others to comfort.
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Re: Other WP forks on 17 Shercos
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2016, 06:36:20 AM »
Thanks for laying out the options Nitsuga.

The reason for the AER option is cause of the weight savings and ease of spring tuning.



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Re: Other WP forks on 17 Shercos
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2016, 07:11:20 AM »
Ive seen and heard bad comments about air forks on Jap bikes. WP seems to have avoided the "Collapsed Forks" syndrome when the seals go bad on the AER but I guess you still have to be checking the pressure if you ride on changing conditions.

Ease of setup ranks high on my list.
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Re: Other WP forks on 17 Shercos
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2016, 05:16:23 AM »
Have a set of AER forks on the 2t right now. Love them!!!! Came off of a 16' 450 OB factory Edition. Had to have the oil fork revalved. Now has the same valving as a 17 300xc. Bought off of Fleabay. They are a tad longer than the stock OC forks. Been running around 110psi. Gonna start dropping 1 psi per ride and see where I like it the most. It still has a plush ride with great bottoming resistance and turns/tracks extremely well. JLow.
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Re: Other WP forks on 17 Shercos
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2016, 09:55:05 AM »
Strange that nobody mentioned the axle's lug offset differences between Sherco and the rest?! To me this plays a vital role in overall bike's handling and certainly it is not something to be neglected .

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Re: Other WP forks on 17 Shercos
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2016, 04:42:48 PM »
One of these days I'm going to try the forks off my 2011 KTM 300 XC just to compare

I rode a 17 Husky TX300 and really liked the air forks.  Very plush but excellent bottoming resistance.

However I rode a 15 Honda CRF250R with air forks and thought they were the worst forks I've ever ridden.  One word, describes the. Well, "Harsh"!
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Re: Other WP forks on 17 Shercos
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2016, 10:28:21 AM »
What is the 17 clamp offset stock? And lug / axle offset for 17 shercos?


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Re: Other WP forks on 17 Shercos
« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2016, 05:08:16 AM »
Strange that nobody mentioned the axle's lug offset differences between Sherco and the rest?! To me this plays a vital role in overall bike's handling and certainly it is not something to be neglected .

I've wondered about this. When you buy aftermarket forks, they come with the axle centered. And if you make your own spacers, it would also be centered. The Sherco axle center point is about 1cm forward on the fork legs at least until the 2016 models. I'll check the 2017 as it had some chasis changes.
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Re: Other WP forks on 17 Shercos
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2016, 11:25:30 AM »
We have been looking at alternatives for our new 17s:

Marzocchi CC 48mm: It's almost bolt and ride, except you have to make your own wheel bushings as they come fro the OB (bigger axle). Really plush and a lot of enduro riders use it here. About $2.000.

Ohlins TTX 1784: The FGSH model is specifically made for Sherco so it's plug and play. About $1.300 for the forks. You can even buy the inner parts and keep your tubes for half that money, but Ive seen how much importance stiction has on fork action, and all top of the line forks have friction treatments.

WP Cone Valve: the most expensive, but in the hands of a good tunner can have the best results.$3.500

While looking at these alternatives I received my 300 SEF-R and the OC forks work exceptionally well by just changing springs and moving the clickers. Comparable to my fully Race-Tech modded OC forks. Took about 2 hours to break them in and will give them a chance for a few months.

Be sure to check user reviews, as some forks are more oriented to racing and others to comfort.

Marzocchi's are prone to internal, external wear as well as poor machining tolerances. When fresh they do work really well but not worth the expense and maintenance to keep them there.

Airboy - A less expensive route is KYB SSS cartridge swap for around $1200 including donor cartridge if looking for top performance CC without going to an "A" kit. Otherwise a custom revalve WP CC stock factory fork will perform very good. Cone valves are one of the best "A" kits out there when set-up correctly. I wouldn't take an air fork when others are still available. Looking for weight loss get a Ti spring. Ohlins are good but limited to set-up knowledge and expensive replacement parts just like Marzocchi.
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