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Sfade

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Steering damper?
« on: June 12, 2020, 04:02:38 PM »
I've read a lot about them and never had one, except on my Triumph 675 race bike.  I have all the parts needed sorted out for sub-mount with my Mako 360 clamps.  I have recently tightened up my headstay bearing as poor mans stabilizer-but not much effect. 

I ride tight woods/roots and mid to deep sand and I constantly making lot of steering corrections and I do get some arm pump and pain in elbows/tendons.  I really focus on keeping light hands, but the trees, ruts, sand, and roots keep trying to take my bars.  All said an done it's going to run me close to $700 for Scotts and undermount and lower bar to correct for height increase.

You dont' know what you don't know so I'm trying to figure out if it is going to make noticeable difference.  I can ride all day on "normal" dirt and arm pump and associated elbow/tendon ache is no issue--but I'm 90% in the sand.  I also wonder if it will be beneficial to my joints in the long run as I'm 43 and not getting younger.

Curious to hear thoughts
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Re: Steering damper?
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2020, 04:29:54 PM »
If you feel the bike is twitchy, set the forks in the
Clamps close to flush.
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Re: Steering damper?
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2020, 06:22:26 PM »
I ran steering dampers for many seasons when I raced hare scrambles. I donít run them now as I donít race. I think of them more like safety items than anti fatigue item, and I donít think it ever made any difference there. When youíre trying to ride hard on faster 3rd gear and up nasty washes, loose, boulders, roots it helps especially later in the race. Now just trail riding I just go slower haha.

I do second moving the forks in the clamps. The difference between the lines is pretty pronounced.
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Re: Steering damper?
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2020, 07:03:25 PM »
Forks are already flush.  Run a fatty front at 9psi which slows it down a bit.  I plan to race this fall some hare and enduros and pushing hard is when I really feel it. 
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Re: Steering damper?
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2020, 04:03:17 AM »
Maybe sag 105-110?
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Re: Steering damper?
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2020, 08:01:18 PM »
I also consider them a safety item.  I have ridden and raced many miles in Baja and remember one time in a 30+ mile section of 50mph+ sandy whoops and my pin dropped down out of the stabilizer.  I noticed instantaneously and almost crashed and had to stop and fix it it or slow way down if I wanted to keep riding without the stabilizer at that speed.  I don't think people realize how much the stabilizer does in certain situations.  However I ride more enduro/hard enduro on 2 stokes now and none of my 300's/250 have stabilizers.  I did buy a 500 SCF yesterday and am currently in love.  It may get a stabilizer.  They help a ton in sand IMO and if you want to go really fast they could save your ass.

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Re: Steering damper?
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2020, 11:22:02 PM »
Yeah, have my sag at 107mm.  My bike is set up pretty close to perfect right now.  Part of me wants to experience riding with a stabilizer to see if its something I like, helps, or saves my butt.  That curiosity costs of course.  The other part thinks it will really help me even at slow speed deflections from root and sandy ruts that I'm always riding through/over and of course the higher speeds.  Well, maybe in a few weeks I will pony up??

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